Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
 
The time now is Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:58 pm
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)
View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Diversions » Perplex City Puzzle Cards » PXC: Silver Puzzle Cards
[Puzzle] Silver #238 Riemann
Moderators: AnthraX101, bagsbee, BrianEnigma, cassandra, Giskard, lhall, Mikeyj, myf, poozle, RobMagus, xnbomb
View previous topicView next topic
Page 2 of 47 [697 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 45, 46, 47  Next
Author Message
The First Speaker
Boot


Joined: 18 May 2005
Posts: 55
Location: UK

LOL We're being asked to solve the greatest maths problem of all time..Amazing, whats next?? Formulate a unified field theory of everything??

There must be a hidden puzzle in this.

Quote:
"If I were to awaken after having slept for a thousand years, my first question would be: Has the Riemann hypothesis been proven?".
from Hilbert (famous mathematician who set a list of maths problems at the start of the 20th century)
_________________
"If I were to awaken after having slept for a thousand years, my first question would be: Has Perplex City card #238 been solved?"

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:26 am
 View user's profile Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
DogsHead
Veteran

Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Posts: 142
Location: Sydney

... I .... splode.
_________________
135 of the 333
____________
Cassandra wrote:
one of the shoe-loving Academy gatehouse gals


PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:46 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
oliverkeers13
Entrenched


Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 917
Location: London, UK

It doesn't pose a question, which is very odd. Its puzzle MUST be hidden, as there isn't one on the card.
_________________
"You're talking last ditch, I need top drawer" V
"To be in opposition is not to be a nihilist" CH
"im iver an idiot or a genus" Dekuprince
Perplex City Video


PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:13 am
 View user's profile Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
SocialElite
Boot


Joined: 17 Aug 2004
Posts: 66

not to be overly fatalistic, but the star at the bottom of the card does indicate that there's a $1,000,000 prize "upon solving this puzzle."

Obviously there are multiple ways to read that statement, but it seems the most sensible might be: "Upon solving the puzzle of card #238, that being the proof of the Riemann function, you will receive both 60 Perplex Points from us and 1,000,000 dollars from the Clay Math Institute."

I'm still curious, though, did Von ever text you back about this puzzle, JebJoya?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:31 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
oliverkeers13
Entrenched


Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 917
Location: London, UK

I texted him as well, but no response. I don't think that that can be the puzzle, as other silver cards, like the Syzygy Cube, are worth more points, and are easier. I don't think it is the puzzle.
_________________
"You're talking last ditch, I need top drawer" V
"To be in opposition is not to be a nihilist" CH
"im iver an idiot or a genus" Dekuprince
Perplex City Video


PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:43 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
BrianEnigmaModerator
Entrenched


Joined: 05 Oct 2003
Posts: 1199
Location: Pacific Northwest

The other day, I was going to suggest that the puzzle somehow related to the prime numbered cards--for instance, something in the title or wording of those cards. Now that someone has figured out the prime numbered cards are already used for the playing card symbols (presumably for the silver card, Shuffled, that looks like it uses a Solitaire cipher), I am not so sure--unless those cards are used for both puzzles. There are exactly 54 primes in our card set and there are 54 playing cards (52 cards + 2 jokers), so it's not likely a coincidence that it is perfect for the Solitaire cipher.
_________________
Y0 Resources / VP Wiki / PXC Catalog / Metacortex

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:09 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
doublecross
Unfettered


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 588
Location: London, UK

I don't have the card, and I can't quite read the image of the equation.

Is it zeta of 's' or zeta of '8' that equals the sum?

If it were zeta of '8', then the answer would simply be 1/7, as for any positive integer x, it is 1/(x-1) (according to the Excel spreadsheet I just knocked up). Something tells me that it isn't that easy...
_________________
xx

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:51 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
oliverkeers13
Entrenched


Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 917
Location: London, UK

It is a curvy S not an 8
_________________
"You're talking last ditch, I need top drawer" V
"To be in opposition is not to be a nihilist" CH
"im iver an idiot or a genus" Dekuprince
Perplex City Video


PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:02 am
 View user's profile Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
JebJoya
Unfettered


Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 679
Location: UK

yeah, the s refers to a complex number of the form "p+qi" st i^2=-1

So, err, yeah, read my old post for some ramblings Smile

Jeb
_________________
Jeb's ARG coming Autumn 2007...
Last FM Smile


PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:56 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
questionboy
Boot

Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 41
Location: england

Re: [Puzzle] Silver #238 Riemann

(As of 2004, the largest known prime was 7235733 digits long!)


It may be too simplistic for a silver but each number above is a prime could this be guiding us to use this to translate the text ?

maybe a long shot...will start working on it....
it could also be the key for the cypher
_________________
The truth though hidden will eventually rise
98/100


PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:11 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
questionboy
Boot

Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 41
Location: england

[Spec]
OK using the numbers 7235733
did not produce anything meaningful....by taking 7th then 2 on then 3 on....

eg
7=be
2=by
3=number
5=for
7=13 (or if skipping numers aside)
3=are(theoretical)
3=number

does this make sense to anybody....
taking the first letter of the sentences...
7th=T
2nd=F
3rd=A
5th=H
7th=T
3rd=A
3rd=A
....think i'll lay down now as this makes no sense....maybe a key
_________________
The truth though hidden will eventually rise
98/100


PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:20 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
tanner
Entrenched


Joined: 21 May 2003
Posts: 875
Location: (x,y,z,t,i, ...)+

JebJoya wrote:
yeah, the s refers to a complex number of the form "p+qi" st i^2=-1

So, err, yeah, read my old post for some ramblings Smile

Jeb

i is my favourite number, ps and qs are just something i've got to mind
Very Happy
see my location
_________________
tanner³ -- Join the PXC team on SETI@home
"And the princess and the prince discuss what's real and what is not,
But it doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden" - BD


PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:19 pm
 View user's profile Yahoo Messenger
 Back to top 
tanner
Entrenched


Joined: 21 May 2003
Posts: 875
Location: (x,y,z,t,i, ...)+

FORGET IT - i was stupid
[strike]ok here we go:-

Quote:
For example, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13 and 17 are all prime numbers


drop commas and spaces and we have2357111317 and
Very Happy Very Happy
_________________
tanner³ -- Join the PXC team on SETI@home
"And the princess and the prince discuss what's real and what is not,
But it doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden" - BD


PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:17 pm
Last edited by tanner on Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:41 am; edited 4 times in total
 View user's profile Yahoo Messenger
 Back to top 
Adam G.
Veteran

Joined: 16 May 2005
Posts: 71
Location: England, Bristol

just a quick thought. if this is worth perplex points when we give the perplexians or mindcandy the awncer and as its one of the greatest maths problems of all time how will they know the given awncer is wright?
_________________
PPC and PPC trades tag The Gothic Lord
My Trades http://perplexcitytrades.com/The%20Gothic%20Lord


PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:26 pm
 View user's profile MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
tanner
Entrenched


Joined: 21 May 2003
Posts: 875
Location: (x,y,z,t,i, ...)+

well my answer is junk so they wouldnt get far with that Smile
i'd feel a lot less silly if i thought before hitting that submit key
_________________
tanner³ -- Join the PXC team on SETI@home
"And the princess and the prince discuss what's real and what is not,
But it doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden" - BD


PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:30 pm
 View user's profile Yahoo Messenger
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 2 of 47 [697 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 45, 46, 47  Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Diversions » Perplex City Puzzle Cards » PXC: Silver Puzzle Cards
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group