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[Omnifam] AUG13 Call for help - Arcanum-Ultor
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johnahue42
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drizjr -- huh? Does what help? The above post? That was already found -- the missing person in that article was an IG character and the quotes above the article are unknown as to what they mean.

What do you mean by "If someone with better skills could cut and paste the numbers inthat pattern, that would be great! " ?

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drizjr
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oh, ok. So the whole slide thing was solved then? If so, disregard my above post. It was to be my lame attempt in paint shop to show the position of the colored blocks after 21 moves.

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tulipgirl
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Earlier, on one of the boards, someone kindly put the numbers in an excel spreadsheet - I looked back, but can't find the post, and I'm not sure about the order of the two grids.

Anyway, I moved the squares in the excel doc to match the solved puzzle. Dunno if it will help anyone - I tried changing the hex to binary and then to text. Nothing so far - maybe someone else will have better luck.
pretznoki moved.xls
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drizjr
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I hope this works. Embarassed
I'm sorry that this is such a mess. I'm just learning how to do this.
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Pauloulou
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Okay, I might be totally barking up the wrong tree, but I've been up for hours trying to figure this, so give me a break Wink Here's what I did: I put each horizontal lines of letters/numbers and decoded it in Hex. This came out all mumble jumble, so I did the next step (or so we think) and translated it into binary. I then did some 'addition magic' and basically counted up all the ones. The sums seemed to get progressivly higher as the lines went on (I think it was something like Line 1 was 52, Line 2 was 56, 61, 65. I didn't write them down, but that's the kind of progression) Without thinking much about it, I took that single number and decoded it in Hex (why...I dunno!) and every single one of the numbers gave me a single letter. The first five lines (hopefully I didn't miss count all those 1s) was
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Quyce
I then ROT'd it, but nothing.

But after that long winded explanation, obviously I missed something, not to mention I didn't take into consideration some of the steps. So! Hopefully this inspires someone, somehow. Y'all can burn some brain cells on this one. I'm off to bed!
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Are there really NO dutch people around here? None at all?
Poison translated into Dutch is gif. So maybe there is a gif file hidden in there somewhere???

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LadyLovelylocks
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new wrote:
Are there really NO dutch people around here? None at all?
Poison translated into Dutch is gif. So maybe there is a gif file hidden in there somewhere???


Gif? That an odd inflection.

I'm not dutch, but isn't poison supposed to be "vergiftigen"?
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Quote:
isn't poison supposed to be "vergiftigen"?


to poison means "vergiftigen"
a poison does mean "gif" or "vergif"

I should know, I am dutch

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LadyLovelylocks
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new wrote:
I should know, I am dutch


I'm sure you are. I was just pointing out that "gif" is not the most obvious translation, at least not to me.
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aliendial
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And where is Giskard when we need him? He must be on vacation. This is PRECISELY why we have him around. To translate all those Dutch clues we get. Laughing Hee.

(and Ladylovelocks - I wouldn't put it past a devious swedish puzzler to try the same thing, but expect us to figure out poison=gift->but no tea for you -> gif, or something equally horrid. At least this provides an exact word!)
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Ursos
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Pauloulou wrote:
Okay, I might be totally barking up the wrong tree, but I've been up for hours trying to figure this, so give me a break Wink Here's what I did: I put each horizontal lines of letters/numbers and decoded it in Hex. This came out all mumble jumble, so I did the next step (or so we think) and translated it into binary. I then did some 'addition magic' and basically counted up all the ones. The sums seemed to get progressivly higher as the lines went on (I think it was something like Line 1 was 52, Line 2 was 56, 61, 65. I didn't write them down, but that's the kind of progression) Without thinking much about it, I took that single number and decoded it in Hex (why...I dunno!) and every single one of the numbers gave me a single letter. The first five lines (hopefully I didn't miss count all those 1s) was
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Quyce
I then ROT'd it, but nothing.

But after that long winded explanation, obviously I missed something, not to mention I didn't take into consideration some of the steps. So! Hopefully this inspires someone, somehow. Y'all can burn some brain cells on this one. I'm off to bed!


That is an interesting theory, but the problem still comes down to the changing numbers/letters. How can we translate any of it from/to anything if it's changing all the time? I checked one line (at random) from one color block against what it became after one set of numbers/letters changed, and the resulting binary was close, but not the same. Which makes sense. So... Yeah, that might be the right idea, but I guess I just don't know how we're supposed to translate anything out with it changing all the time...

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cnote1500
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Assuming, and I may be wrong here, that each number only changes to one other number, perhaps the "addiditive magic" is that we need to add each number to the one it changes to.

How we do that, I have no idea, since last i figured, you cant add A to 1...

Just a thought

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Pauloulou
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cnote1500 wrote:

How we do that, I have no idea, since last i figured, you cant add A to 1...

Just a thought


My thoughts exactly. You can't add letters, and as far as I know, the only coding that's made up predominantly of letters AND numbers is Hex. That would make sense with the clue (curse/hex), so my best guess would be to start punching those bad boys into the decoder. From there...who knows?

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That is an interesting theory, but the problem still comes down to the changing numbers/letters. How can we translate any of it from/to anything if it's changing all the time?


Whoa whoa whoa. It changes?I didn't even notice that...How often? Jeeeeze.

Okay, let's think logically. If it's constantly changing, there would be no way to directly translate it, as was said before. Therefore, there would have to be a code, or a sum, or some sort of result that was the same no matter what random numbers/letters came up. I'm going to try and use my crazy, complicated, and very wrong formula, just to see if those results are the same. Then we'll know if there is some sort of constant between them and all will be right with the world!

EDIT EDIT Haha. I realise now why I didn't notice that it changed. I was using the Photoshop'd picture to decode the stuff, and that obviously doesn't change. Whoops. My bad. Embarassed
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tulipgirl
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Yes, it changes - but each block only switches between two numbers. They just do it randomly. One of each set is bold, and one is not. So, there could be one message, or two, or something else. Gah!

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johnny5
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tulipgirl wrote:
Yes, it changes - but each block only switches between two numbers. They just do it randomly. One of each set is bold, and one is not. So, there could be one message, or two, or something else. Gah!


Well, that's certainly a case where patience would come in handy.
It would make sense that all the bold ones go together, similarly for the non-bold.

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