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[SPEC] The Mystery of the theft ...?
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cassandra
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If we're continuing the C list, then please add:

Emily Cahill
Evita Carrick
Sharon Copeland
Rose Cove-Houghton
Shia Cowrie
Cymbalisty (?) (not sure on gender)

and

Edith Coralhouse. Who oddly enough was never mentioned as one of Ruth's relatives.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:13 am
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This will eventually get back to being closer to the topic and where the thread was heading. I'm not 100% sure this is the right place for this but I've been going over the history for while and I think the motivation for the theft might be to bring down the current "politcal party's" control.

http://www.perplexcityacademy.com/visitors2.html
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In fact, diaries of several of the fellows from that period tell a different story, of a drawn-out political battle between two factions who could not come to agreement about the direction of the Academy and who should be its master. Catherine Carrick, the author of one of the earliest treatises on cryptology, favoured a rigorous approach in which the Academy's focus on creating puzzles and problems should take centre stage. Philosopher Boaz Delaney, on the other hand, held that the Academy was an institution of learning first and foremost. This argument deeply divided the fellows of the Academy, and was the cause of many lasting personal rifts as well as public debate.

In my opinion it's rather obviouse where Sente stands.



http://www.perplexcitysentinel.com/archives/2005/09/iona_interviews_4.html
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Within three years of taking office, Kiteway had turned that around, cutting back extraneous departments ("there's no reason for the Academy to be the finest teaching hospital in the city," he says, "that's just not our core work. Look at the motto: we're not here to teach students about questions that have already been answered. We're here to ask new questions, ones that push forward our understanding."), and securing the Academy's power base through a series of top-level alliances with finance, big business and government across the city.

Also, notice the strange punctuation. It's possibly just my lack of knowledge of proper grammer and punctuation.



With all the information that you smart ladies and cats have found so far pointing back to an acient power, secret society, or religious group "still being around".
http://wiki.incognitus.net/ppc/index.php/Salklogs.doc
When looking closer at "Reasearch and Deadends" and "20 Questions". I can't help but get a little excited about these thoughts.



While I'm here I'm going to add a couple other things that loosely follow the same line that may be important.
http://www.perplexcitysentinel.com/archives/2005/05/historic_notes.html
http://www.perplexcitysentinel.com/archives/2005/08/archaelogy_brea.html
Is it strange that the only survinving members of one of the 7 founders Sanjean Adamek (Senior Fellow of Arts) decendant of Vianne Adamek comments on both these articles.



And once again from the history of the academy.
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Despite the continuing disapproval of the townsfolk, the Academy remained. It grew in size, taking on additional rooms in the area of those original Beston cellars, and offering a tuition service to the sons and daughters of wealthy townsfolk as a way of funding its continuing research. No scholars of note were yet resident in the Academy, although Varkin writes that she passed through on her way north, and comments that she "enjoyed an excellent dinner. Though the tables of this 'Academy' be fine indeed, the discourse of its scholars is finer yet".

Who is this (V)arin anyway and where is scarlett again? Up North? Maybe?



Ok well back to being closer to the topic if you take these things in and look for the remaining thieves or especially in the future events and if on the slight chance I'm right (sigh). It may help find those scum. Unfortunatly I havn't yet tried linking this idea to possible thieves and I might need a break Smile.

What "C" could mean to me. Programming language, all knowing all (see)ing, Cryptology, Ocean. Ya, head hurts!!

Let me know what you think and if you feel like this should be moved elsewhere I aplogize and please feel free to move it and let my know how I errored.







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As of right now - I'm somewhat partial to Viendenbourg - considering Monica referenced it in "open" communication - but I DO like Reason's explaination of V as Valerian.

Now however, two questions.

First - where did you find the excerpt that said "C was some kind of computer genius"

Secondly - 110% certain Kurt begins with K and not C? <--- I deserve trouting for this, but whatever.

I highly doubt that C would be dead. Computer experts:

A) Don't usually "go in for the steal" with the crooks

B) Have a propensity for being quite useful in tight situations. If Monica wanted C dead, I'm sure C would be dead - but I highly doubt that:
i) Monica set up the backdoor in AP by herself
ii) Monica would be stupid enough to dispose of her resident "geek"

The only thing I can think of that might contradict this logic is Monica might want to get rid of the evidence. I'm sure C's key and "computer" would be full of little bytes here and there that the Academy could trace. Might be as well for Monica to destroy the computer and C as well - to keep her own hide intact.

Somehow I also doubt that C would live in AP, so close to the Advisor. It makes almost as much sense as Monica having two apartments - a regular Monica Grand one and another "nefarious villian apartment" (as someone put it).

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Arashi wrote:

Secondly - 110% certain Kurt begins with K and not C? <--- I deserve trouting for this, but whatever.


Kurt's blog Smile enjoy.
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Arashi
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Silly Atrophied. I was only joking Raspberry

On a more serious note however - we've run out of chances to access the data leaks in AP right? Which means they either gave us the name we needed or it is somewhere else.

I'd suggest a massive Sentinal archive check :\ Ill get on it, since Physics is incredibly boring - but I don't think I'll be finished anytime soon, so feel free to jump in :p

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Arashi wrote:
where did you find the excerpt that said "C was some kind of computer genius"


In the Salk Logs at http://salkfamily.com/shedoesnotthirst/

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M. Johansson
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Arashi wrote:
First - where did you find the excerpt that said "C was some kind of computer genius"


Salklogs.doc, in the wiki.

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Seej
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OK, these are largely copied from Dictionary.com, but here's some meanings of C;
- Cent (100)
- Third (third best grade, third in the alphabet, etc.)
- Musical note (middle C)
- Celsius/Centigrade
- Charmed quark
- Coulomb (unit of charge)
- Cytosine (DNA base pairs are A, T, C and G)
- Copyright
- Constant (in maths, e.g. when integrating something without limits)
- Circumference
- A programming language (incidentally, there's also C++, the name of which is a joke so direly geeky I'm going to spare you the explanation)
- Carbon
- The speed of light
- Capacitance
- Carat (unit of mass when weighing precious stones)
- Circa
- Calorie

These are the most obvious ones. Of course, maybe we need to know more about what exactly it stands for (we'd never have got Quercus just from Q) but I just feel like we're supposed to be solving this one. Hope this gives someone a lightbulb moment.

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i have been half considering Sente - CENT(e) -- but not seriously Very Happy
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Arashi
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I'm just browsing the Wiki right now, reading everything I can find.

This sounds like someone is screwing with us however.

Under the Wiki entry of "theft" there's this.

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She appears not to have a codename (Advisor's comment – 'I think C. was the initial of her real surname').


^--- I highly doubt this is real, if it was, we'd be much closer to the answer, and great ARGers like Seej and Reason wouldn't be giving alternate code name explainations

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Seej
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Arashi wrote:
'I think C. was the initial of her real surname'.


I just assumed that this meant her code name happened to start with C and by conincidence so did her surname, not that she picked C because it was her last initial.

Arashi wrote:
....great ARGers like Seej....

lol. I'm guessing at this as much as you mate Wink

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Seej wrote:

I just assumed that this meant her code name happened to start with C and by conincidence so did her surname, not that she picked C because it was her last initial.


Either way - is there any possible websites we may have missed. I mean, hell she could be a server at whipsmart for all we know.

As for Monica, I agree it is possible she could have a fake name, HOWEVER. Shes obviously been in banking for a while - to be so respected. I'm sure V only approached her perhaps years before the heist, not when she was 10 :p

This means, if she was already in the industry and well known, she COULDN'T have faked her name. Besides - she told Pietro that she never "dreamed of this as a child" and that "t's always a question of circumstances, of what comes your way"

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What codename do we have for the Advisor?

She was K, which we tie to Grand, so was her codename Kilo? I don't think so. It would seem to me that each member designed their own codename, but didn't necessarily have a specific word related to them with it. I have to say that I thought C picked her code because it was her name. If they just happened to coincide, I don't think Monica would have made such a big deal out of it.

Of course, if I'm wrong, it might show some naïveté on C's part, using a codename that is so closely associated to her real name. Perhaps someone young and inexperienced.

All of this is just speculation, this is my first ARG...

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I don't think they have codenames, so to speak. I got the impression that The Advisor's observations (Quercus, etc) were after-the-fact speculations on how they'd come to choose their codeletters. So while each member may have had something in mind to pluck an initial from (play on name, actual surname, and so on) I'm not personally of the opinion that they were known by anything other than Q, C, K and V.

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U's on first.

It's a good thing nobody picked "U" or "I."

"Hey, U--come over here and give me a hand."
"Who, me?"
"No, U."
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