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[ubersaurus]

Worst case scenario-it'll only sell well in Japan. They love weird shit like this, which is one of the reasons why the DS outsells the PSP badly over there. Japanese arcades, don't forget, survive on games with specialty controllers, which is exactly what the Rev is running.

Now, the US market, that's the question. Me, I'm trying to figure out how Smash Bros will run on it, but what the hell-online smash is worth figuring out a goofy controller.

It almost seems to me like all 3 systems are sort of branching off into different market areas-none of them are apparently going for 100% of the market.

[fugitivesoldier]

From the bungie WWU:

Frankie spotted Miyamoto's ride, and took a pic:



Miyamoto is even emblazoned on the windshield

lol

[Tiny]

I"m no fanboy, but honestly, almost everything from Nintendo since the GameBoy color has pretty much disappointed me. The one thing that actually almost made me buy a gamecube was the rumor of all the Final Fantasy games coming out on one disc awhile ago. None of it is my type in any way whatsoever. Zelda has been about the only thing that could please me from Nintendo since The 64, and I wasn't really all that big a fan of Windwaker either. The new Zelda looks soooooooooooo bad t @ss though, it's crazy good, problem is, I just can't think of a way to use this new fangled deal to actually play the way I remebered from Ocarina that made me sooo happy.
Xbox has just about everything I've wanted in a game console going for it. The damned near computer like hardware, the online play has always been amazing, the release games, Oblivion and PD0 would be all I'd ever need for the system, and then there's everything to look forward to, this new 360 button, the total wireless, and anything that Bungie ever puts out.
See, the sole reason I am falling in love with X360 is the fact that I have been drooling over Joanna Dark since before I played Tomb Raider, I wanted Perfect Dark Zero since it was rumored to be a possible release title for GameCube for mikes sake.
I probably won't buy a Revolution, as usual with Nintendo's stuff, but then the Ps3 may be a whole nother story. But of course, If that controller is as awesome as they say it is, I'll be in line.
Tj-

[zorplex]

(Psst- Dante, that new Zelda game, "Twilight Princess" is coming out for the Game Cube so it will use GC controllers. As long as you don't have a problem with the GC controllers, you have nothing to worry about! )

[vortech]

This controller keeps making people talk about to powerglove as an example of a nintendo failure. this confuses me for two reasons:
1. it was a Mattel made controller.
2. I loved My Powerglove.

(the VB really was bad though.)

[Tiny]

Wait, are you serious?! Sweeet, that game loooks soooooooooo awesome. I just saw a few previews of it on G4, never paid attention, just figured it was coming out on Revolution. That makes me Uber happy.
Tj-

[Pluvius]

[SuperJerms]

Dante, you gotta know your roots. It's bold for me to say it (because there were some contributions from other areas), but we really have nintendo to thank for much of where videogames are today. I'm gonna sound like a fanboy here, so let me just disclaim that I havn't bought any nintendo product since the first Gameboy.

For my whole life, Nintendo has consistently had the inferior technical product, but it's never kept them from being the biggest contender out there. NES was up agains turbographix and sega genesis. Gameboy was up against Linx. N64 against Dreamcast. Cube against Xbox. And all of them against PC gaming that was always light years ahead.

Even if you haven't played and liked Nintendo offerings, their successes moved on to make the things you are enjoying today. Again, almost everything that they have done was being done by someone else, but Nintendo always implemented and marketed so widely that they caused widespread adaptation in terms of hardware and gameplay innovations.

A good example is multiplayer. Sure, there was already doom, marathon and quake, but nothing brought multiplayer FPS gaming to the masses like Goldeneye on N64. I remember how much fun getting gamespy up and playing Team Fortress on Quake was, but nobody aside from my geek friends do. But the masses that I went to college with did. It lead the way to Halo Lans.

Nintendo has always been the best at making group interaction fun. Mario Cart, Super Smash Bros, Mario Party, etc.

Most franchises can only dream of the success that Nintendo has with its characters.

Portable gaming has had systems that come and go, but Gameboy keeps making games that are more fun than they are pretty.


I don't really feel like I'm being all that articulate here, but I'm just saying that lots of the things that make games fun would not be here in the form that they are now if not for Nintendo. In the coming generations, it seems clear that there are different approaches being taken by each major company. Xbox rightly is focusing on the live experience and some key games. PS3 has market share and will keep leveraging that they have more fish in their pond, plus the PS3 might be hella powerful. Both systems are running to have the fastest, prettiest bump-mapped graphics. Nintendo's apporach is different. Their hardware improvement is marginal by comparison, but the ultimate question is: will the games be fun?

It's all gonna come down to if this controller works as it will. If it does...my goodness. Fishing, swordfighting, aiming a-la-lightgun, steering wheel without additional controllers, feeling the rumble of the chainsaw in your hand whlie you slash up zombies? The ability to play all those gamecube games people were swooning over, but I wasn't willing to buy the cube for? Making a fist and punching Soda Popinski?

I think I'm gushing now. Maybe I am a fanboy after all.

[CherryMay]

[Tiny]

I like what Cherry said. It's true, Nintendo has always been a huge part of gaming and probably always will be, but they have also usually been alot more aimed at children. Thats another reason I haven't been looking towards Nintendo as much lately.

They always have had something fun as well, but this new controller has weirded me out. I mean, I've always loved the traditional controller, if this one doesn't work to perfection, I won't be buying a Revolution.
Honestly though, can you reallly compare the three systems to each other? They are so radically different in their approach to gaming, it sems unfair to pick apart their differences.

Nintendo has always been the innovation, the originality and the kid focused gaming. I mean who would have thought of Catching Bugs (Pokemon) or making flowers follow you around(Pikmin)?

Playstation is Nintendo a few years older and wiser. Online play, much more mature games that most younger kids wouldn't be able to understand, like Final Fantasy or Ghost Recon. They have very complex mature story lines.

Then there is Xbox, New to the crowd but also bringing an entirely new look at things. Xbox is the melding of Playstation, Nintendo and a computer. Trust me, open one up and notice the similarities. Xbox is Microsoft making Computer gaming afordable. Not only that, but it's got online play on a scale that no one else could dream of.

Comparing their next gen consoles is unfair, because they are totally different views on gaming, and that's how I like it.
Tj-

[CherryMay]

[ubersaurus]

[SuperJerms]

Oh, I'm sure a more traditional controller will be one of the first things released as an add-on. They already said that the base controller will be able to plug into other controllers (bongos, ddr mats, etc), so it's probably no biggie to make one.

It shouldn't be impossible to remap gyro controls to buttons, and too many will be skeptical of replacing traditional with gyro. I am especially skeptical of the 10-15 foot radius thing. If the 3d functions don't work perfectly, and I mean PERFECTLY, the whole system is hosed.

And, there's the problem of "I look silly." There's a big image hang-up that might keep folks from swinging a controller around like a sword, racquet, bat, golfclub, caveman club or fishing rod, even if it's tremendous fun. Like the whole NES Track and Field mat...soo much fun at a party game, but you looked like such a tool doing it. Adds to the fun if you can get past looking cool, but I suspect mass market isn't quite ready yet.

[thunderclap8]

Its just that sort of oddball gameplay that I love so much though, and that's a big part of why I think I'm going to be returning to Nintendo as my primary nexgen system.

And DDR has had a fair amount of mass market success, despite 99.99999% of players looking like goons. I say this as a goon myself, of course.

[fugitivesoldier]

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html