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BUDEEFLY
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Atlanta, Georgia....Anne shreber

London, UK....Franklin Parrish

Johannesburg, South Africa....Djingo Labbat AKA Steven Mae

Toykyo, Japan...???



Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:46 pm
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puma88
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when you open mr paris's pic in a new window you get this
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/35138057/1868488
so doesn't that mean the pics been edited in photoshop?

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Sporky
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What are we looking for? In the pic, I mean.

Also is that Pete Doherty in your av or just someone who resembles him? Very Happy

edit: I'm guessing from your location that it is ^^;;

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puma88
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for some reason it showed the pic as text a few mins ago?
at the start it said 'duckyadobe' which means its been in photoshop...

also pete is class, i used to photograph the libertines back when johnny borrell was in the band for a bit but we lost touch

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Sporky
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Haha really? That's ace. I love the Libs and Pete, my gf does even more so.

Also yeah it's been edited in Photoshop. I didn't see the text tho, just the pic.

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Abraxas
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@BUDEEFLY

Here is my attempt at translation:

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From: VaporLofts Renewal Project: London Branch File # p2-uk0706.144 (fragment)
Regarding: Ownership Purchase and Excerpt Development begins

Due to the current climate on the global market and the hightened security around London and the Outer District, the purchase of the London key construction place has been problematic.
Delayed in financial distribution only of the main office they further impede the progress in the London Renewal Project. The Atlanta Renewal Project is currently the leading development of the four Vapor ownerships worldwide.
Additional BRITISH construction personell has been assigned for taskwork and research, in order to be sent to the Atlanta branch. Research specific enquiries can set up new nets to the London offices through current communication.

- END OF TRANSLATION -

Notes:
- The last sentence doesn't make any sense.
- I translated "Eigenschaft" to "ownership", because it's closest to what they are talking about (I guess) and it's actually not far off, because own->eigen and -ship-> -schaft in some cases. But babelfish isn't that stupid...I know there's a word which matches exactly, I have it somewhere back in my mind, probably it'll come to me later...
- "Aufstellungsort" probably means something else and "Way aufstellungsort" could be some twisted version of something with "gateway" in it, no clue



I think the constant stegging gets a bit strange. I understand that Anne only designed the logo and such? Because if she is responsible for all the content how does it all end up stegged? Ghosts which write secret stuff in computer data? For what purpose?
I'll better stop party-pooping.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:23 pm
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rowan
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A lot of pictures end up through Photoshop at one point or another. It's just one of those things.

Sporky: In order to see the Ducky/Adobe words that puma was talking about, you have to view the jpg as a text file. At the very beginning of the file you'll see the words Ducky and Adobe. Most people looking at a Photoshoped photo for the first time always swear that the Ducky is a clue to something.
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(new to the ARG world, hope this post helps somehow... Question )

So I noticed that the words on gateway/5193.html, section iii after the first "Information Missing" are in some sort of pattern. Each sentence is made up of words which have descending letter counts.

(This has been posted before, but I don't think commented on)
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(Information Missing) Electrophysiologically consubstantiation antipodean yond md my x, Tetrahydrocannabinol architecture's scepterlesses vallecular elver pep pc pr we a. Nonrepresentationalism structurelessness checkerberry afire hub ah ai am ha we a i. Temptation's heists why? (Information Missing) Disadvantageousness administrationist freewheeler freeholder hurry hook you oh.


Counting the numbers of letters in each word gives this result, organized by the existing sentence structure.

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22 17 10 4 2 2 1,
19 13 13 10 5 3 2 2 2 1.
22 17 12 5 3 2 2 2 2 2 1.
11 6 3?
(Information Missing)
19 17 11 10 5 4 3 2.

And I tried assuming 0=a...
wrkeccb, tnnkfdcccb. wrmfdcccccb. lgd? trlkfedc.


I am stumped! I don't think the numbers represent ASCII because it would begin with a symbol. And the repeated 2s make me think this isn't a direct number/letter subsitution. Someone more experienced want to take a crack at it? Confused

Also... just trying to make sense of all this. Tolokoshe in S. Africa are mythical creatures which though animistic can assume many forms - similar myth to the Yokai in Japan. Perhaps S. Africa and Japan are two of the four "gateways", and perhaps because of these mythical beings. Maybe the image from the video Anne found is "ghostly" - referring to the (not exclusively) American idea of ghosts inhabiting certain places....

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rowan
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Nothing exciting here, but just for completeness sake.

So while I was archiving the pages of VaporLofts since things seem to change so rapidly (and if anyone has a copy of the removed pages - lemme know), I noticed that the main banner of the index page was called vaporbanner2.jpg. Seeing if there was indeed more than 1 banner pic, I tried a few more names and found two other versions.

Neither appear to have any hidden messages in them (although vaporbanner.jpg seems to have some weird structure within the file - might just be the way it was created.)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:00 pm
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"Eigenschaft" should be translated as quality or property and "Aufstellungsort" to the place of the exhibition.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:08 pm
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rowan
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Btw, I think you should all be aware of this.

Budeefly emailed Djingo Labbat aka Steven Mae and posted her response over in the Orbital Colony forum.

Mr. Labbat/Mae responded to her in a way that it would appear that he was affiliated with both games.

Luckily, the PMs of Orbital Colony saw this and sent their own email to Budeefly discrediting Mr. "Mae" (saying that a Hotmail address is not valid for their employees).

The chances are if this "person" is a troll trying to mess with OC then it is highly likely he is also a troll in VaporLofts and should not be believed. Until such time as we receive a clear cut message from Anne/post_system that he is who he says he is, please do not believe a word he says and try not to communicate with him. It will only encourage him more.
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rowan72 wrote:
Btw, I think you should all be aware of this.

Budeefly emailed Djingo Labbat aka Steven Mae and posted her response over in the Orbital Colony forum.

Mr. Labbat/Mae responded to her in a way that it would appear that he was affiliated with both games.

Luckily, the PMs of Orbital Colony saw this and sent their own email to Budeefly discrediting Mr. "Mae" (saying that a Hotmail address is not valid for their employees).

The chances are if this "person" is a troll trying to mess with OC then it is highly likely he is also a troll in VaporLofts and should not be believed. Until such time as we receive a clear cut message from Anne/post_system that he is who he says he is, please do not believe a word he says and try not to communicate with him. It will only encourage him more.
Thank you very much, rowan

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RoLLiNg_sToNe
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wondering if we're going to start any other threads for this game, or is it always going to be "an arg with potential"? i think it's pretty clear that this is a game. regarding the quote on the website "modern and progressive loft design" there is no atlanta living review that i could find. why don't we start organizing things a bit here?

here's more: they call themselves "Vapor, Inc.", but look at this:

http://www.vaporinc.com

wouldn't they have a company website as well as the atlanta project.
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RoLLiNg_sToNe wrote:
wondering if we're going to start any other threads for this game, or is it always going to be "an arg with potential"? i think it's pretty clear that this is a game.

Well, since it is in this forum, we can create new threads as we see fit. If it gets to the point where our threads outgrow this section, we will be given a new forum (although that is not an invitation to start making new threads willy-nilly. Just use common sense).

RoLLiNg_sToNe wrote:
here's more: they call themselves "Vapor, Inc.", but look at this:

http://www.vaporinc.com

wouldn't they have a company website as well as the atlanta project.

Maybe. Maybe not. Personally, I have been looking for other satellite sites, but I haven't been able to find any yet. As for vaporinc.com, it has been registered since 2002. While I believe that this game has been in the planning stages for a while, I have a hard time believing that it goes back that far. And that site is more about parties than it is about real estate/weird science stuff.
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Anne e-mail contact

I e-mailed Anne at the address in her Point_System livejournal. I tend to natter a bit, so to spare you all my text is behind the spoiler cut.

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Hi Anne,

... I thought I would drop you a line and see how you are holding up. Here I thought I had problems with the workplace. Smile

But seriously, VaporLofts sounds even sketchier than some of the callcenters I've worked at. Being only contracted, you have a measure of safety in your affiliation with them. But still, stay smart and keep yourself safe. They've had some strange things on their website lately, but that's all been taken down. (Well, mostly. You just have to know where to look.)

I want you to know that if you ever get scared or need someone to talk to, just send me an e-mail. I'm not on chat very often, but my Yahoo chat username is "..." and I can pop on every so often to see if you are on. Sometimes having someone in the real world to talk to can help when things appear too creepy to stand.

And even if the site in Atlanta has a spook, that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. I have a pookha that follows me around. It's more of a fox-spirit, a
kitsune, than a real ghost. Think having a troblemaking six-year old following you around.

Take care! I hope to hear from you.



She replied:

Quote:
Hi ...!
Thank you so much for your kind words and offer.
What is a pookha? Tell me more about that.
- Anne


And I sent back a response detailing a little about pookha verses kitsune.

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Hi Anne,

A pookha is a shapechanging fey spirit out of European mythology, popularly an animal trickster. They are rather benign and annoying at worst. My own pookha would manifest in my peripheral vision as a black cat, usually sitting in a corner or darting through a doorway. When I lived with cats, I thought nothing of it. But after moving away to an apartment with no pets at all, I realized something was following me around. Sometimes it wears the faces of cats that have died while in my care. But most times its the black shape on the edges of my world, darting in to give me a spook.

It likes to screw with me when I'm intoxicated, since it's that much easier. One night I searched high and low for a juice container that should have been in the 'frige, and it wasn't until I sat still and asked for it to be returned that I found it sitting prominently on the top shelf of the refridgerator.

Now, the fox spirit, kitsune, are a bit darker a trickster, usually. Every region had their own spin on the myth, and any individual encounter is going to have a different feel given the person it happend to. My own experience with a kitsune invovled the semi-haunted house my boyfriend at the time lived in. He and I got frisky and I felt like something was "tagging along", asking to hitch a ride on my energy while we messed round. I remember inviting it on in. It was a trippy experience, and I had brief vision of a fox sticking a bloodred tongue out at me, laughing. I was hysterical afterwards and had to put a lot of effort into throwing it off, and coming down off of that high was awful. But that's a fox spirit for you. The stakes get higher, but it's all just a game.

Hope that helps.


I'll post any further responses as I get them. (And yeah, all those stories are true.)

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