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[RobDixon]

[SPEC] Investigating Monica's Murder

[RobDixon]

Helena Frye: Accomplice or just Incompetent?

[Mokey Fraggle]

I agree that Helena Frye is a suspicious person at this point. What sets off my BS meter (as my mother called it when I would fake a headache before school) more than anything else is the fact that she let Sylvia go unprotected into a clearly dangerous situation. My thoughts:

1. She knew what V's plans were, and so she knew Sylvia wasn't going to be a victim.
2. She didn't care about Sylvia's safety.
3. She's a terrible detective.

I've probably missed another logical conclusion. In any case, I don't trust Helena at the moment.

The only thing that makes me wonder whether it wasn't Helena, but instead too much chatter from our end, is the scolding tone of the latest Futures. Reading those really makes me feel as though we did something wrong.

Something else that keeps bothering me in this mystery is how Monica got that clue in the first place. I want to know whether she wrote the clue and it was intended for us, or she intercepted the clue that was intended for the 3P, or what.

My guess (because the writing sounds like her personality in the clue) is that she somehow got tipped off that V was on his way, she grabbed whatever little tidbits she'd been able to find, and she quickly threw them together in that clue for us, hoping it'd be helpful in the event of her death.

Still, that doesn't clear up ... much of anything.

[Artemis]

Or it could be C!!! More and more I think it's the lady from the academy on the cryptology page (I'm too lazy to look right now and I don't know the correct spelling). Her being the computer expert and the stolen military equipment or possibly the other guy on the same page with similar credentials setting her up? AND as far knowing what is being said in our communications.... well it's not like I military could know what you were saying in your online communications if they wanted too

[Spankit]

Somehow I doubt that Helena Frye could be an accomplice. If she was an accomplice to Monica's murder, that would of course imply that she is affiliated with the Third Power (or whatever you want to call this yet to be named mystery cult). But that would mean that when Pietro "magically" revealed to her the location of Holyoake's secret stash, she would have immediately recognized that he was getting his information from someone else, i.e. Monica Grand (although, this actually leads me to wonder why Frye never questioned Pietro about his source).

Had Frye known about Pietro's involvement with Monica from the very beginning, I'm guessing the Salk Logs would have been quite a bit shorter, as opposed to going on for nearly 2 months.

Of course, there could be quite a few other factors I'm not considering, such as Helena Frye's incompetence (its possible that she was both an accomplice and incompetent!).

[buzman]

Bracing myself for flying fish ....

Violet's word of the day on Quirky Acuity - 'Exsanguination' - seems to have some relevance here, with the repeated mentions of the amount of blood at the murder.

Doesn't seem very likely, but have we ruled out any connection to Violet?

[RobDixon]

[Atrophied]

[Jakeo]

[WhiteGulls]

Right, so what I'm seeing here is that Frye is very, very untrustworthy. I'm agreeing with that, but I'm also thinking that she may have some other uses. We could try feeding her fake information? I'm sure that if we manage to make a situation (IE - WE HAVE THE CUBE! but more realistic) that would make V or C move in some way, shape, or form, and only let one person know at a time then we'd figure it out. But it's improbable that we'd be able to pull that off with any sort of realistic chance of sucess, because they'll ask for pictures, tell the sentinel, anything.

I'm thinking that this is one of the 4 people we know of as being related to the theft of the cube - V, C, Monica (is that right? I've been away for a bit so I'm grabbing what I missed from the Wiki), and Quercus. Since this is two out of three people now killed, I'm going to do a bit of random spec here.

Take Quercus, the owner of the Five of Cups. He owned the bar, and it seems that he would be in the position to obtain the equipment from the academy due to patronage. There's use number 1.

Monica probably had another purpose, which was to get financial backing from someplace. As she said:

[Scott]

[Crane]

Actually... I CAN see some reasons for suspicions of Violet. I'm wondering where this book went. She said ages ago "Oh, I should be getting it next week", but she hasn't mentioned it since... I DON'T think violet is "V", but she could be a member of the "3" society, chosen to feed us misinformation. Hell, we don't even know that it IS Violet. Don't forget that weird phantom blog post...
[/paranoia]

[quaint]

Perhaps we ought to be thinking about C's identity too. She could be in league with V, to get rid of the other accomplices - eg she might have gone with V to AP and spoken to Monica over the access system, so Monica thought she was Sylvia. But then the question is, why? And what else have they in common, or are planning?

Possibly more likely is that she is not working with V on these murders - in which case we have someone at serious risk of their life. And that could lead to panicky or erratic behaviour. Which we need to look out for.

[uneasyjd]

I mentioned this in another forum, but I'm wondering about Myra Champaign as C. The experimental treatments she underwent are intriguing/suspicious...