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draghkar
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 771 Location: Netherlands - the hilly part of it that is
I just got a reply from Jordan to my mail:
Quote:
Dear Dragkar
You can start by telling me the truth about these people that you have been in contact with.My lips are zipped until your's are open
Jordan
confirms the trust issue...
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:54 pm
Puppy_Zwolle
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Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 969 Location: Not Zwolle anymore. really no kiddin'
Now what? A paper as proof? Did some digging....
http://www.ifra.com/
Quote:
1961
Founding of Ifra as INCA
(International Newspaper Colour Association)
by three founding members from Belgium, Germany and the United Kingdom, to promote and improve colour printing in newspapers
1970
Renaming INCA to Ifra
(INCA-FIEJ Research Association)
whereby "INCA" stands for "International Newspaper Colour Association" and "FIEJ" stands for "Fédération Internationale des Editeurs de Journaux". Today the name "Ifra" stands by itself.
This proves a paper 40 years ago can not be a member as the name did not exsist yet. The paper is a fake.
[EDIT] the qualityclub is even younger but could not find a date on that one.
Oh and......
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/
Today's Date: Sun November 6th 05
Quote:
Quinn lashes 'self-serving' Roy Keane
A LONG-simmering row between two of Ireland's most high-profile footballers has exploded once again after Niall Quinn branded Roy Keane "farcical and self-serving". The outburst from Quinn has reignited the tensions between the two, which date back to Keane leaving the Irish training camp in Saipan during the 2002 World Cup.
Also hardly 40 years old
So beside 'the feel' that we can not trust him(or her) either we got some proof to back it up. Or am I being paranoid?
_________________"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:54 pm
PatRol
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Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 194 Location: Germany - OWL
Good find, puppy.
I was wondering, what the hint on the anne2.jpg - "This section, page 29" wanted to tell us.
If you have a look at the PDF-Frontpage of the actual newspaper, then you will find exactly the same text-snippet ("This section..."). Now I wonder, why this text is still there.
EDIT: I copied the PDF-Frontpage to a jpg, so you don't need to open your acrobat-reader. The frontpage of todays Sunday Independent is here:
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:32 pm
labfly
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Puppy_Zwolle wrote:
So beside 'the feel' that we can not trust him(or her) either we got some proof to back it up. Or am I being paranoid?
first of all...yay on all of the above work!
and, puppy, i do not think your paranoid--
jordan's up to something... i have no idea what
but his whole "tone" seems way too angry and vindictive
for someone who presented himself, at first, as a lonely
person searching for this old philosophy teacher--
_________________r u a sammeeeee? yep.
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(friend of Peeps & Peg)
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:23 pm
Puppy_Zwolle
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Thanks labfly & PatRol
Did somebody get a chance to look at:
"This section, page 29" ?
I guess that would take the right version of the paper as well as sombody who could 'read it to us'. What would be the chance of that? Taking a subscribtion for this would be taking it a bit far (at least thats my oppinion )
Or can we assume its just the "What the barber heard today"-page?
**** whispers**** and that that could be a hint as to how reliable this message is?****
_________________"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:24 am
PatRol
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Does anybody remember who is depicted on this picture?
I have seen the picture of this woman before, but right now i cannot remember who the person is.
-----
Maybe Jordan is upset because we have been hiding information about a massmurderer? So i think it is his totally free choice not to trust us for us keeping our mouths shut and not telling him about that. What can happen to the others if we ask Jordan wether he knows about them or not?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:29 am
Puppy_Zwolle
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No, am looking though. Chance she is a serialkiller is slim as not many femaleserialkillers exsist (in our plain of exsistence that is)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_country#Ireland
[EDIT]WOOHOO!! Got it..The face! Its on papermoney... but don't remember wich
looking
_________________"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:49 am
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PatRol
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Haven't found her yet. But there are not only a few. Have a look at this site .
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:17 am
Puppy_Zwolle
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Yep seen it and did the tour. Not even a t-shirt.
She's not in there. At least not with an axe, nor under that name and nor with that face.
Looking at money at the moment.
_________________"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:02 am
draghkar
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just my 2cts on the newspaper article..
I am wondering if the other things on the page lead us to a clue.
A green and pleasant land, Self Serving, Sinn Fein, page 29?
the first must be ireland
The others might lead somewhere as well
just a thought
Draghkar.
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:23 am
Puppy_Zwolle
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You are the first to say it out loud. Ireland is a theme here.
Even the paper (irish-independent) is an irish one. Anne moved from NY to Ireland. Could lead us somewhere indeed.
[EDIT] Stumbled upon this. The date and the axewielding woman are amazingly in there but its australia.
http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=qw1131335640913B223
Chilling in more then one way.
_________________"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:46 am
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draghkar
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What we know from the discussions with riddlemask is that anne moved to france. this was after her brother was killed. She was taken while she was in france!!
Maybe the following happened:
* killed her brother
* moved from chelsea new york to Dublin
* killed some 20+ others with an axe in Dublin
* She was found in a small Irish town and was then chased by police
* staged her death this way
* moved to france
* was taken
Just some random speculation but maybe worth following up.
Greetz,
D.
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Call me nightshade, since I am known as such in the summer court
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:58 am
draghkar
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Another thing that just popped in my mind is the following:
We were brought to the menace-media site by numbers carefully implanted in lisas brain by dr Munchen. After that the site happens to be from Jordan Davis, looking for the same dr munchen.
How could this dr munchen have known that the site existed, while he disappeared from this plane of existence??
What is the real connection between dr munchen and jordan davis???
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:23 am
draghkar
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and just to stir things up a lil bit:
I wrote an email to tomgrehanSPLAT menace-media.com
Quote:
Tom,
I have a message from Anne for you. Please reply if you are interested.
Greetz,
Draghkar
See what that brings us...
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Call me nightshade, since I am known as such in the summer court
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:44 am
Puppy_Zwolle
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draghkar wrote:
We were brought to the menace-media site by numbers carefully implanted in lisas brain by dr Munchen. After that the site happens to be from Jordan Davis, looking for the same dr munchen.
Briljant!! Completely missed that one. But what does it mean? There must indeed be some connection already before 'we' came along. But why?
If we consider dr. Munchen to be on of the goodguys and don't trust Jordan (yet) why would the good dr. M. want us to connect? (assuming this was no accident) That would not make a lot of sense. If he were 'the enemy' you'd expect a warning of some sort. "Here be dragons", skull and bones "Achtung!"
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:44 am
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