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[POKER] Johnny Deuces (09-Nov-2005)
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[POKER] Johnny Deuces (09-Nov-2005)

Only a partial transcript, as far as I got before I took off for Chatsworth. Anyone want to post the rest?

Quote:
MelonCandy: Hey
Daveman424: Hello there
AmberJoy: hey Johnny Smile
johnnydeuces: Pedro, that crazy bastard. He put out a Dia de los Muertos alter out for his boyfriend. Its crazy.
Akira187: sure is
AmberJoy: bad stuff
MelonCandy: Hey, shows love though.
Akira187: hey Johnny, you ever check back on that gun you found?
johnnydeuces: I mean, what about abuelita?
johnnydeuces: What about ME?
AmberJoy: what was abuelita's name?
Akira187: abuelita?
MelonCandy: Everyone love's grandmothers, but this is fresh dead.
AmberJoy: I love my grandmother too.
johnnydeuces: My grandmother?
MelonCandy: Hurts more, too.
AmberJoy: Yes, what was your grandmother's name?
Akira187: grandeuces, of course
AmberJoy: Smile
MelonCandy: So, how's death been treating you?
johnnydeuces: What difference does it make? Anyway, Pedro goes all the way out to Chatsworth.
Akira187: whats in chatsworth
AmberJoy: If I knew her name I would say a prayer for her.
johnnydeuces: Makes this little alter to his boyfriend.
johnnydeuces: In this place called Garden of the Gods.
Nos: I've been to Garden of the Gods...
MelonCandy: Chatsworth?
johnnydeuces: Stupid stuff.
AmberJoy: What was in the altar?
johnnydeuces: Yeah, Chatsworth.
johnnydeuces: Stuff for his boyfriend. You can see it if you want, it's right there.
johnnydeuces: Next to some big rock that used to be in Westerns.
Daveman424: Oh, you're talking about the memorial she left for him?
MelonCandy: We're kinda far away. You've go tthe better view
johnnydeuces: How come, you and I we're both right here.
MelonCandy: Yeah, but youre dead, and I'm in michigan
MelonCandy: Can't dead people see far?
johnnydeuces: He takes out this chalk and draws a cross.
johnnydeuces: You're dead too, or you wouldn't be here.
MelonCandy: Really? Huh, didn't know that.
MasterCheese: do you know why Pedro decided he wanted to be a woman?
johnnydeuces: So like it's this kind of place where the Lone Ranger was filmed and stuff.
AmberJoy: Johnny, my friend is heading to Chatsworth right now to check out that altar.
johnnydeuces: Good, AmberJoy.
MelonCandy: That's cool. LIke because he liked films?
johnnydeuces: Why did Pedro think he wanted to be a girl?
Daveman424: Are you talking about the Lone Ranger Rock, Johnny?
johnnydeuces: You're frigging asking me?
johnnydeuces: Daveman, you can see it from the Lone Ranger rock, it's on the other side of the road.
Daveman424: Indian Head Rock?
MelonCandy: Oh, okay.
johnnydeuces: Yeah, I think that's what it's called, Daveman.
MelonCandy: People are going out, I think. To look
MelonCandy: Didn't she make one for you?
MelonCandy: Where is that?
johnnydeuces: That's nice, MelonCandy, but what I really wish is that Pedro would give a rat's ass about family.
johnnydeuces: All this drama queen stuff.
johnnydeuces: Damn, I would have had trip dueces.
AmberJoy: drama queen or drama king?
Akira187: you relations with padro
MelonCandy: I'm sure he cares. He was gonna take that ticket for you.
johnnydeuces: AmberJoy, you know Pedro, you don't gotta ask.
AmberJoy: Yeah, you're right Johnny.
johnnydeuces: Yeah, MelonCandy, I know. He was pretty torn up at the cemetery.
johnnydeuces: It's just that everything he does is like that.
AmberJoy: You think he went overboard?
MelonCandy: Family is importaint, but you got to go out and make your own family, too.
johnnydeuces: No, Pedro is just ass-backward some times.
MelonCandy: You ever call him 'Corazon'? Just asking.
johnnydeuces: MelonCandy, he tried that stuff with me. But I known him my whole life.
johnnydeuces: I can't think of him as nothing but Pedro.

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Re: [POKER] Johnny Deuces (09-Nov-2005)

Full version. Err, full partial version. Whatever.

Quote:
Starting a new hand #1518165
Dealer: jsailor sits out
Starting a new hand #1518201
Game is cancelled -- not enough players
Waiting for more players before starting the next game
Dealer: Amigakid posts the small blind (2)
Dealer: johnnydeuces posts the big blind (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING POCKETS ***
Dealer: Amigakid calls (3)
Dealer: johnnydeuces folds
Dealer: Amigakid doesn't show his hand
#1518201: Amigakid take it down ($10)
Starting a new hand #1518215
Dealer: johnnydeuces posts the small blind (2)
Dealer: Amigakid posts the big blind (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING POCKETS ***
Dealer: johnnydeuces raises (8)
Dealer: Amigakid folds
Dealer: johnnydeuces doesn't show his hand
#1518215: johnnydeuces take it down ($10)
Starting a new hand #1518225
Dealer: Amigakid posts the small blind (2)
Dealer: johnnydeuces posts the big blind (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING POCKETS ***
Dealer: Amigakid calls (3)
Dealer: johnnydeuces raises (5)
Dealer: Amigakid calls (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING FLOP ***
MelonCandy has joined the table
Dealer: johnnydeuces bets all-in (1,990)
Dealer: Amigakid folds
johnnydeuces shows Straight, ace to five
#1518225: johnnydeuces take it down ($20)
Starting a new hand #1518243
Dealer: MelonCandy posts (5)
Dealer: johnnydeuces posts the small blind (2)
Dealer: Amigakid posts the big blind (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING POCKETS ***
MelonCandy: Hey
Daveman424 has joined the table
Dealer: MelonCandy checks
Akira187 has joined the table
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (5)
Daveman424: Hello there
Nos has joined the table
AmberJoy: hey Johnny :)
Dealer: johnnydeuces folds
Dealer: Amigakid checks
Dealer: *** DEALING FLOP ***
MasterCheese has joined the table
johnnydeuces: Pedro, that crazy bastard. He put out a Dia de los Muertos alter out for his boyfriend. Its crazy.
Akira187: sure is
Dealer: Amigakid checks
Dealer: MelonCandy checks
Dealer: AmberJoy checks
Dealer: *** DEALING TURN ***
AmberJoy: bad stuff
Dealer: Amigakid checks
MelonCandy: Hey, shows love though.
Dealer: MelonCandy checks
Dealer: AmberJoy checks
Dealer: *** DEALING RIVER ***
Akira187: hey Johnny, you ever check back on that gun you found?
johnnydeuces: I mean, what about abuelita?
Dealer: Amigakid checks
Dealer: MelonCandy checks
johnnydeuces: What about ME?
AmberJoy: what was abuelita's name?
Akira187: abuelita?
Dealer: AmberJoy checks
Dealer: *** SHOWDOWN ***
Amigakid shows One pair, tens
Dealer: MelonCandy mucks
AmberJoy shows Two pair, tens and sixes
#1518243: AmberJoy wins ($17) with Two pair, tens and sixes
Starting a new hand #1518293
MelonCandy: Everyone love's grandmothers, but this is fresh dead.
Dealer: Daveman424 posts (5)
Dealer: MasterCheese posts (5)
Dealer: Amigakid posts the small blind (2)
AmberJoy: I love my grandmother too.
johnnydeuces: My grandmother?
Dealer: Nos posts the big blind (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING POCKETS ***
MelonCandy: Hurts more, too.
Dealer: MelonCandy calls (5)
Dealer: Daveman424 raises (5)
Dealer: MasterCheese folds
AmberJoy: Yes, what was your grandmother's name?
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (10)
Dealer: johnnydeuces raises (15)
Dealer: Amigakid folds
Dealer: Nos calls (10)
Dealer: MelonCandy calls (10)
Dealer: To start playing, you should sit down.
Dealer: Daveman424 raises (10)
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (10)
Akira187: grandeuces, of course
Dealer: johnnydeuces calls (5)
Dealer: Nos calls (5)
Dealer: MelonCandy calls (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING FLOP ***
AmberJoy: :)
Dealer: Nos checks
Dealer: MelonCandy bets (5)
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (5)
MelonCandy: So, how's death been treating you?
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (5)
johnnydeuces: What difference does it make? Anyway, Pedro goes all the way out to Chatsworth.
Dealer: johnnydeuces calls (5)
Dealer: Nos calls (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING TURN ***
Dealer: Nos checks
Dealer: MelonCandy bets (10)
Akira187: whats in chatsworth
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (10)
AmberJoy: If I knew her name I would say a prayer for her.
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (10)
johnnydeuces: Makes this little alter to his boyfriend.
Dealer: johnnydeuces calls (10)
Dealer: Nos calls (10)
Dealer: *** DEALING RIVER ***
Dealer: Nos checks
Dealer: MelonCandy bets (111)
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (111)
johnnydeuces: In this place called Garden of the Gods.
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (111)
Dealer: johnnydeuces folds
Dealer: Nos folds
Dealer: *** SHOWDOWN ***
MelonCandy shows Three of a kind, nines
Dealer: Daveman424 mucks
Dealer: AmberJoy mucks
#1518293: MelonCandy wins ($515) with Three of a kind, nines
Nos: I've been to Garden of the Gods...
MelonCandy: Chatsworth?
Starting a new hand #1518370
johnnydeuces: Stupid stuff.
Dealer: Akira187 posts (5)
Dealer: Nos posts the small blind (2)
Dealer: MelonCandy posts the big blind (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING POCKETS ***
AmberJoy: What was in the altar?
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (5)
johnnydeuces: Yeah, Chatsworth.
Dealer: MasterCheese calls (5)
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (5)
johnnydeuces: Stuff for his boyfriend. You can see it if you want, it's right there.
Dealer: johnnydeuces folds
Dealer: Akira187 raises (5)
Dealer: Amigakid folds
Dealer: Nos calls (8)
johnnydeuces: Next to some big rock that used to be in Westerns.
Daveman424: Oh, you're talking about the memorial she left for him?
MelonCandy: We're kinda far away. You've go tthe better view
Dealer: MelonCandy calls (5)
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (5)
Dealer: MasterCheese calls (5)
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING FLOP ***
johnnydeuces: How come, you and I we're both right here.
Dealer: Nos checks
MelonCandy: Yeah, but youre dead, and I'm in michigan
Dealer: MelonCandy checks
Dealer: Daveman424 checks
MelonCandy: Can't dead people see far?
johnnydeuces: He takes out this chalk and draws a cross.
Dealer: MasterCheese bets (5)
johnnydeuces: You're dead too, or you wouldn't be here.
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (5)
Dealer: Akira187 calls (5)
Dealer: Nos folds
MelonCandy: Really? Huh, didn't know that.
Dealer: MelonCandy calls (5)
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING TURN ***
Dealer: MelonCandy bets (10)
Dealer: Daveman424 raises (20)
MasterCheese: do you know why Pedro decided he wanted to be a woman?
Dealer: MasterCheese calls (20)
johnnydeuces: So like it's this kind of place where the Lone Ranger was filmed and stuff.
AmberJoy: Johnny, my friend is heading to Chatsworth right now to check out that altar.
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (20)
Dealer: Akira187 raises (130)
johnnydeuces: Good, AmberJoy.
MelonCandy: That's cool. LIke because he liked films?
Dealer: MelonCandy calls (120)
johnnydeuces: Why did Pedro think he wanted to be a girl?
Daveman424: Are you talking about the Lone Ranger Rock, Johnny?
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (110)
Dealer: MasterCheese folds
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (110)
Dealer: *** DEALING RIVER ***
johnnydeuces: You're frigging asking me?
Dealer: MelonCandy bets (21)
Dealer: Daveman424 raises (42)
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (42)
Dealer: Akira187 calls (42)
Dealer: MelonCandy calls (21)
Dealer: *** SHOWDOWN ***
Daveman424 shows One pair, eights
MelonCandy shows Straight, eight to queen
Dealer: AmberJoy mucks
johnnydeuces: Daveman, you can see it from the Lone Ranger rock, it's on the other side of the road.
Dealer: Akira187 mucks
#1518370: MelonCandy wins ($793) with Straight, eight to queen
Starting a new hand #1518488
Dealer: MelonCandy posts the small blind (2)
Dealer: Daveman424 posts the big blind (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING POCKETS ***
Daveman424: Indian Head Rock?
Dealer: MasterCheese folds
MelonCandy: Oh, okay.
johnnydeuces: Yeah, I think that's what it's called, Daveman.
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (5)
Dealer: johnnydeuces folds
MelonCandy: People are going out, I think. To look
Dealer: Akira187 raises (100)
Dealer: Amigakid folds
Dealer: Nos folds
Dealer: MelonCandy calls (98)
Dealer: Daveman424 folds
MelonCandy: Didn't she make one for you?
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (95)
Dealer: *** DEALING FLOP ***
MelonCandy: Where is that?
Dealer: MelonCandy checks
Dealer: AmberJoy checks
Dealer: Akira187 checks
Dealer: *** DEALING TURN ***
Dealer: MelonCandy checks
johnnydeuces: That's nice, MelonCandy, but what I really wish is that Pedro would give a rat's ass about family.
johnnydeuces: All this drama queen stuff.
Dealer: AmberJoy checks
johnnydeuces: Damn, I would have had trip dueces.
AmberJoy: drama queen or drama king?
Akira187: you relations with padro
Dealer: Akira187 checks
Dealer: *** DEALING RIVER ***
MelonCandy: I'm sure he cares. He was gonna take that ticket for you.
Dealer: MelonCandy checks
Dealer: AmberJoy checks
johnnydeuces: AmberJoy, you know Pedro, you don't gotta ask.
Dealer: Akira187 checks
Dealer: *** SHOWDOWN ***
MelonCandy shows One pair, deuces
AmberJoy shows Two pair, nines and deuces
Dealer: Akira187 mucks
#1518488: AmberJoy wins ($305) with Two pair, nines and deuces
Starting a new hand #1518560
Dealer: Daveman424 posts the small blind (2)
Dealer: MasterCheese posts the big blind (5)
Dealer: *** DEALING POCKETS ***
AmberJoy: Yeah, you're right Johnny.
Dealer: AmberJoy calls (5)
Dealer: johnnydeuces calls (5)
Dealer: Akira187 calls (5)
Dealer: Amigakid folds
Dealer: Nos calls (5)
johnnydeuces: Yeah, MelonCandy, I know. He was pretty torn up at the cemetery.
Dealer: MelonCandy calls (5)
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (3)
Dealer: MasterCheese checks
Dealer: *** DEALING FLOP ***
Dealer: Daveman424 checks
Dealer: MasterCheese checks
johnnydeuces: It's just that everything he does is like that.
Dealer: AmberJoy checks
Dealer: johnnydeuces checks
AmberJoy: You think he went overboard?
MelonCandy: Family is importaint, but you got to go out and make your own family, too.
Dealer: Akira187 bets (50)
Dealer: Nos calls (50)
Dealer: MelonCandy folds
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (50)
johnnydeuces: No, Pedro is just ass-backward some times.
Dealer: MasterCheese folds
Dealer: AmberJoy folds
Dealer: johnnydeuces folds
Dealer: *** DEALING TURN ***
Dealer: Daveman424 checks
MelonCandy: You ever call him 'Corazon'? Just asking.
Dealer: Akira187 checks
Dealer: Nos checks
Dealer: *** DEALING RIVER ***
Dealer: Daveman424 checks
Dealer: Akira187 checks
Dealer: Nos bets (10)
johnnydeuces: MelonCandy, he tried that stuff with me. But I known him my whole life.
Dealer: Daveman424 calls (10)
Dealer: Akira187 calls (10)
Dealer: *** SHOWDOWN ***
Nos shows One pair, jacks
Dealer: Daveman424 mucks
johnnydeuces: I can't think of him as nothing but Pedro.
Dealer: Akira187 mucks
#1518560: Nos wins ($215) with One pair, jacks

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Quote:
MelonCandy: We're kinda far away. You've go tthe better view
johnnydeuces: How come, you and I we're both right here.
MelonCandy: Yeah, but youre dead, and I'm in michigan
MelonCandy: Can't dead people see far?
johnnydeuces: He takes out this chalk and draws a cross.
johnnydeuces: You're dead too, or you wouldn't be here.


further proof that the dead characters don't really know what's going on. i got the impression that victor understands that we're alive though.
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CoffeeJedi wrote:
further proof that the dead characters don't really know what's going on. i got the impression that victor understands that we're alive though.
Perhaps it's you that doesn't really know what's going on Smile

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ThaJinx wrote:
CoffeeJedi wrote:
further proof that the dead characters don't really know what's going on. i got the impression that victor understands that we're alive though.
Perhaps it's you that doesn't really know what's going on Smile

i thought about that... but if that were the case, then we couldn't have retrieved the hat, or found the alter, or played tombstone hold 'em. Lucky speaks to us as if we're alive and well in the real world, the website just acts as a gateway.
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Re: johnnydeuces

[SPEC]Johnny Deuces is a recent arrival. As far as he knows, everyone there is dead, just like he is. Y'know, dates of death and mortographies and all that. Victor, on the other hand, has been there much longer. He's had a chat or two with Lucky, and therefore has a better idea of the setup. Lucky's also shown Victor the pictures of us with his real hat in the real world. He knows we're out here, not in there.[/SPEC]
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Re: johnnydeuces

Shad0 wrote:
[SPEC]Johnny Deuces is a recent arrival. As far as he knows, everyone there is dead, just like he is. Y'know, dates of death and mortographies and all that. Victor, on the other hand, has been there much longer. He's had a chat or two with Lucky, and therefore has a better idea of the setup. Lucky's also shown Victor the pictures of us with his real hat in the real world. He knows we're out here, not in there.[/SPEC]


Raising the question of why we have mortographies and dates of death at all.
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Re: johnnydeuces

Phaedra wrote:
Raising the question of why we have mortographies and dates of death at all.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I died when I said I did. Wink

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[SPEC] Requirements to play poker

Phaedra wrote:
Raising the question of why we have mortographies and dates of death at all.


Upon reflection, I think it may be a barrier to keep 1) live characters from talking to dead ones; and 2) us from talking to most of the live characters.

It may be that you don't actually have to be dead (obviously in the game reality we're not dead: Lucky seems to know we're alive, and we're out doing real things in the real world like the live events and the hat tour) to play poker on the site, but the site itself has to think you're dead.

There are profiles on the site for living characters, but we never get to play poker with any character until they're dead.

Why?

In the game reality, this is (as far as I can tell) a real site on the real internet. The characters are, in the game reality, real people who, presumbly, use the internet.

For a while now, though, I've been wondering:

Lucy, as one of Lucky's heirs, should know about LCP -- it was in Lucky's will, right?

Robert knows about it:

Aqua Velva Man wrote:
He went and bullied the executor, demanded to look at the will, and there it was—most of the money to the god-damned poker site and a bunch of crap to his son.


And Lucy's never been curious enough to check it out? Her relationship with Lucky was so intertwined with poker that the two of them can't seem to stop using poker metaphors to talk about each other, and obviously she and Lucky were close, yet she's never bothered to check out the poker site he posthumously used almost all of his money to create?

Of course, if she had checked it out, it would have given her knowledge that, narratively speaking, she wasn't supposed to have had.

Similarly, I'm very touched by Corazon's grief and how much she misses Victor, just as I'm touched by his inability, immediately before his death, to come up with a suitable last verbal message that would describe his love for her.

So there's a certain poignant irony in the fact that, theoretically, Corazon could sit down at a computer, create a profile for herself (or log in using the one that's already there) and talk to Victor in a poker room.

The emotional impetus for Lucy to talk to Lucky may be less (I'm sure she would have appreciated some guidance when all the weirdness with the Gun started, but I don't see her visiting his grave and bursting, Phantom-of-the-Opera-style, into a rendition of "Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again") but again, other than the fact that it would more or less obviate the need for us, and therefore the game, why not?

Lucy could have talked to Kink, too, to find out why he killed Robert and for whom he was working.

Most of the characters like Corazon, however, wouldn't have any reason to know or care about Lucky Brown's poker site, which prevents that sort of thing from happening.

But theoretically, we could contact Corazon, right? We can't do it directly, as we don't have a phone number for her, but we have phone numbers for people who know her, like Kerry.

We could let her know that Victor sometimes shows up on this poker site.

(I'm not saying that we should, by the way, just that it's theoretically possible.)

And she could hop online and have a touching reunion with Victor.

Unless, of course, the site will only let you log on if it thinks you're dead. Which might be one of the reasons that all those live characters have profiles that note that they're alive: it prevents them from gaining knowledge that would destroy a narrative that relies on them not knowing things, and it might bring them face-to-face with their characterhood.

Anyway, just a theory as to why we're all "dead" according to the site.
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