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Obes
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If Lisa doesn't trust Jordan, I don't trust Jordan.


I'm currently studying Media Communications and Broadcast Journalism (Plus I did some work in Film Studies as well).

However, I haven't seen any references to a 'menace media'.

One thing that does strike me though is the Frankfurt School. They believed the media was influencing the populace via mass culture. Thus the individual was being destroyed, and only the 'mass' remained, becoming ultimately a fascist society.

Munchen - Munich - German City...

Frankfurt School - Frankfurt - German City...

Is there more of a connection?

Obes. Twisted Evil
THE MediaMenace.

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Obes wrote:
THE MediaMenace.
Now thats a clear message.

Seems we have a paradox. At least it looks like one.

People from the server give us 'the word from the doc".
That takes us to menace-media.
But they don't trust it/Jordan.

OK. unravelling the paradox.
    Option 1. Jordan is not Menace media. (Hacker or Pirate?)
    Option 2. The message was a warning not an invitation. (how do we check this?)
    Option 3. There is no good and evil here, just mistrust. (and we have lots of that going around)
    Option 4. There is no spoon. (most likely solution but hardly workable. At least... hmmm... maybe... nah.)

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i think we need to get more info from the folks
in the server-- i'll try to keep a better eye out for
them hopping online. i emailed jordan and asked
if he had anything in particular that he'd like to ask
anne, jin or lisa.. (maybe he'll slip with something and
or reveal more with this.. dunno.. just a shot)
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Did a search in the essex historical database here but i couldnt find any reference to a jordan davis being born in november of 42...

just wanted to let ya know..
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Obes wrote:
If Lisa doesn't trust Jordan, I don't trust Jordan.

I know we talked about that yesterday on IRC, but again I want to question: Do we know for sure, that riddle mask is Lisa? As far as I know the nicks were used by different taken people even though Lisa is using the transmitter most. So if there are any convs, please ask who you are talking with Smile

And how do we know that him is really Jordan? Has anybody had a conversation with Lisa talking about Jordan Davis? If not, how does she know about him then? Or is she referring on Carl or any other taken male?

Shy: Did you have a talk with riddle mask and your post was an excerpt of that conversation? Or did one of the taken try to make contact and you couldn't answer because you have been away?

I mailed Jordan, if there is any other way to get in contact with him for example phone, IM or anything else. He hasn't answered my mail yet.

What about:
shyliembrace: riddle mask wrote:
Ask your friends if they got the questions

I have got a lot of questions, though the first thing I was wondering about when reading that is, has someone recieved one of the letters the matzai people have mentioned before? And were there any questions in those letters that can bring us forward?

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Obes
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Is 'Ask your friends if they got the questions' a direct quote? If so... bad grammar or we read it wrong.

It should read 'ask your friends if they have got any questions [for him]'.

Otherwise...

We should 'recieve' some questions, that we obviously haven't 'got' yet.

If this is just a typo, ignore me. Razz

And I'm stealing 'THE MediaMenace' as a title because it just sounds so good in an alliteration. It doesn't mean I'm connected with Jordan Razz, I still don't like him. What 63 year old says 'Peace out'?

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Quote:
Ask your friends if they got the questions'


i was thinking we were to receive some questions-- (via the letters
mentioned earlier)
maybe we could invite jordan for a chat in IRC at a selected
time?
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Good idea...

But at what time? since wer seem to be geographically diverse?

greetz.. D.
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draghkar wrote:
But at what time? since wer seem to be geographically diverse?

Ah yes, "All people are diverse, but some are more diverse."

wanted to type something smart here but got distracted and now ... I lost my train of thought. May come back to me... some day. Toot toot.

I remembered. This almost sugests Jordan knows the questions and did not give them to us? That is if the "I don't trust him" was a reaction to the non-responsiveness to her question.

There must be something to this "peace out". Can't believe it was 'just comic relíef.'
http://www.rapdict.org/Peace wrote:
Although everyone from Jews (using the Hebrew word "Shalom") to Hawaiians (using their word "Aloha") uses their word meaning "peace" to say Hello and Goodbye, the use of the word "Peace" that way in English was started by the hippies in the 1960s.

Hip-hop updated the term to "peace out."

Also
http://www.peace-out.com/


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I know something smart to say...

6000, 6000.. I posted post 6000.
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I know something smart to say...

6000, 6000.. I posted post 6000.


On topic though...

There's only letters being sent to three people, that doesn't mean those letters have questions in. We should ask 'riddle mask' what she/he means.


Obes.

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Obes wrote:

There's only letters being sent to three people, that doesn't mean those letters have questions in. We should ask 'riddle mask' what she/he means.


okay so here's what i think we should do--
number 1: those that have the IM contacts with the "taken" please attempt to clarify what riddlemask means about "questions".. and then

number 2: we'll then invite jordan into IRC chat to ask those "questions" if we can get them and whatever other questions the rest of us have

time of chat: it would probably be best to select a time that's not too late for those of you in europe and not too early for those on or near the west coast in the states -- so how's somewhere between 3pm and 10pm GMT?
that really narrows it down.. eh? umm.. we can discuss
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Just spoke with Lisa

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
miserylite: hello there, long time no see
riddlemask: Contact?
miserylite: yes contact
miserylite: who am i speaking with?
riddlemask: Lisa
riddlemask: I want to know if you have come into contact with anyone on the outside who knew about us and Dr.Munchen
miserylite: I have been contacted by someone who knows Dr Munchen, but he knows nothing of you
miserylite: he doesn't know about the tkings
riddlemask: Does he know how to help us?
miserylite: i believe he has access to dr munchens notes
miserylite: Lisa, what's wrong?
riddlemask: Everything is changing
miserylite: what do you mean?
riddlemask: Jin is gone, more and more people are being taken, and writing is appearing on all the walls and then disapearing
riddlemask: I am afraid
miserylite: what does the writing say? can you remember?
riddlemask: Many things, in different languages.I will try find them after I sleep tonight.No one walks the time of sleep for fear they will hear their past weep
miserylite: Lisa, I want you to stay calm ok
miserylite: have you spoken with Anne lately?
riddlemask: I failed to find any English
riddlemask: Many symbols too
riddlemask: Like a H
riddlemask: with a strike through it
miserylite: a strike down the middle?
riddlemask: Yes, a strike through the middle
riddlemask: Downward strike
miserylite: i know that symbol
riddlemask: I have not spolen with anne
riddlemask: From Munchen, I know
miserylite: is it actually writing or is it carved into the walls?
riddlemask: Your friend just told me
riddlemask: Writing,not carved,
miserylite: who else are you talking with?
riddlemask signed off at 23:06:08.


Nothing much to be had from that as far as I can see. Man, I been outta this too long
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Questions need to be answered:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

snow chyld: menace-media ?
riddlemask: Contact?
snow chyld: Contact.
riddlemask: This is Lisa
snow chyld: Hello Lisa.
riddlemask: Am I right in saying that we have not spoken before?
snow chyld: You are right in saying that we have not spoken before.
riddlemask: A little bit of change
riddlemask: I want these answers the next time I send out signal
snow chyld: o_O
riddlemask: I am now the one asking questions
19:50
riddlemask: Next time I send out a signal I want someone to answer them
snow chyld: Ok
snow chyld: We get signal ?
riddlemask: 1.What happened when the time ran out? I was told to count days yet nothing happened
snow chyld: 1) Time ran out for what ?
riddlemask: 2.Why is Anne still here? Jin was here alot shorter than she has been, I mean LONG, and she was taken last out of those I know.What is so special about Anne
snow chyld: Who is Anne ? Who is Jin ?
riddlemask: 3.Time is growing old, we need help, have you had any contact with anyone on the outside to do with the Doctor?
snow chyld: Doctor Who ?
riddlemask: 4.Do you have any ideas on what to do next
riddlemask: You must ask these questions
riddlemask: People were counting the days
riddlemask: I gave them hope which is now shattered
riddlemask: They are beginning to lose faith in what Doctor Munchen said when he was here.The hope he gave
19:55
snow chyld: Contact has been made.
snow chyld: I will converse once information becomes more apparent.
20:05
riddlemask: I must go, but when I come back, after my duties to my Matzai I will expect answers.Too long I have been the one being asked the questions


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and this just in:

I emailed jordan asking him if he had any questions for lisa or jin
and this is his reply:

Quote:
Ask them how they are transmitting a signal from where they are

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Uh oh... something bad

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
miserylite: Lisa?
miserylite: contact?
riddlemask: I am sorry
riddlemask: I dropped the transmittor
miserylite: don't worry, i thought something had happened
miserylite: do you have anything to ask this person who knew Dr Munchen?
riddlemask: Contact
riddlemask: I am safe
riddlemask: How can he help us.
riddlemask: Does he know of the servers
riddlemask: And does he know where we are
miserylite: ok, I will ask him for you and I will try and let you know what he says. are you the only one with access to the transmittor now?
riddlemask: Yes
miserylite: good.
miserylite: i don't trust anne
riddlemask: Either do I
riddlemask: I want to know why she is still here
miserylite: I believe Anne has been there longer than Jin, yet Jin experienced the second taking before Anne correct?
riddlemask: She has been here the longest of us all
miserylite: I believe she is a spy server
riddlemask: But she was so nice when I arrived here
riddlemask: Taught me the ins and outs
riddlemask: It is just so hard to take
riddlemask: With Jin gone, Carl making looks at me and Anne being like she is
riddlemask: I feel alone
miserylite: what do you mean "making looks"?
miserylite: You are not alone Lisa, look at all the people who are trying to help you.
miserylite: We are just at a cross-roads and don't know which path to take
riddlemask: Thank You
miserylite: what can you tell me about these notes of Dr Munchen's?
miserylite: and the letters?
riddlemask: I never saw them
miserylite: that's ok
miserylite: was Dr Munchen a worker like you?
riddlemask: he worked like all of us
miserylite: did he get on well with Anne?
riddlemask: Yes
riddlemask: Very Well
riddlemask: She was like his sheep though
riddlemask: Always around
miserylite: I see
miserylite: I fear that Anne is reporting back to "them"
miserylite: i havent spoken with her for a while.
miserylite: Lisa, I have a question, did you transmit message asking about receiving some "questions"?
riddlemask: Yes
miserylite: what questions were you referring to?
riddlemask: I asked questions to a friend of yours
riddlemask: He never answered
miserylite: would you like to ask me?
riddlemask: I do not remember them in full
riddlemask: When I do I will
riddlemask: I need to plan my questions to get the answers I want
miserylite: please try, i know it will be hard but they may help us free you
riddlemask: I want to know if you have come into contact with anyone on the outside who knew about us and Dr.Munchen
riddlemask: thats one
riddlemask: i also asked why they thought anne was still here
riddlemask: Had they seen Jin
riddlemask: I am sorry but they were stupid
miserylite: as far as we know, she still is. we havent had any reports of Anne experiencing the second taking
riddlemask: I am in a deep depression
miserylite: Lisa, I understand completely
riddlemask: But why is she still here after so long
riddlemask: Why hasnt she suffered the second taking
miserylite: maybe she is one of "them"?
miserylite: I spoke to Jin and asked if he remembered anything from before his first taking, and he said exactly what Anne had told me the day before.
riddlemask: I have thought that but what are "one of them" it is a mind strain
riddlemask: That is weird
miserylite: true
miserylite: The only difference between their stories was that Jin was probably taken in the 1980's and Anne was probably taken in the 1950's
miserylite: Everything else was the same, even names
miserylite: Has Anne ever referred to herself as Anne Mooney?
riddlemask: In the letter I found
riddlemask: Yes she did
miserylite: can you remember what the letter said?
riddlemask: Yes
miserylite: I have been asked to ask you have can you transmit from where you are?
riddlemask: I do not understand
miserylite: this man who knows Dr Munchen on the outside wants to know how can you transmit if you are in a solid metal room
riddlemask: Through a transmittor
riddlemask: I found it
riddlemask: Dr.Munchen reprogrammed it
miserylite: i know, but how can the signals get out if the room is metal
riddlemask: I do not know
miserylite: its ok don't worry.
miserylite: i apologise for asking so many questions lisa
riddlemask: It is ok
miserylite: other than what you have already asked, is there anything you want to ask me
riddlemask: Anne
miserylite: yes?
miserylite: what about her?
riddlemask: She is outside my room
riddlemask: Staring inside
riddlemask: Please help
miserylite: stay calm
riddlemask: I am scared
miserylite: dont look at her
miserylite: pretend to goto sleep
riddlemask: No
riddlemask: She sees me
miserylite: lisa stay calm
riddlemask: no
riddlemask: please
miserylite: I don't know what to do
miserylite: i wish i could be there to help you
riddlemask: she is walking in
miserylite: run for the door
miserylite: Lisa run!
riddlemask: She is at it!
miserylite: hit her with the transmittor
riddlemask: ok
riddlemask signed off at 23:44:26.

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