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[Puzzle] #176 - purple - The Lake
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Scott
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[Puzzle] #176 - purple - The Lake

Sam Loyd (1841-1911) was born in Philadephia (sic) and lived in New York. Loyd was one of the greatest puzzle designers of his time and this is one of his classics:

'I went to Lakewood the other day to attend an auction sale of some land, but did not make any purchases on account of a peculiar problem which developed. The land was advertised as shown in the posters on the fence as 560 acres, including a triangular lake. The three plots show the 560 acres without the lake, but since the lake was included in the sale, I, as well as other would-be purchasers, wished to know whether the lake area was really deducted from the land...the auctioneer guaranteed 560 acres "more or less". This was not satisfactory to the purchasers, so we left him arguing with katydids, and shouting to the bullfrogs in the lake, which in reality was a swamp.

The question which I ask our puzzlists is to determine how many acres there be in that triangular lake, surrounded as shown by square plots of 370, 116 and 74 acres. The problem is of particular interest to those of a mathematical turn, in that it gives a positive and definite answer to a proposition which, according to usual methods, produces one of those ever-decreasing, but never-ending decimal fractions.'
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
i have the lake being 11 acres in area.

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There's an answer and method of solving here for those who are Google-inclined. Wink
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Seems like I could've eventually got this one, but I'm too lazy. As this is represented as a classic puzzle, I ran a google image search on Sam Loyd. Sure enough, A solution is available here.
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http://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/Loyds.shtml#sol


<edit>Ack! Great minds think alike, but some more quickly than others, I guess!
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Heron's formula never fails! 11 acres is the answer.
Finally, my first cards arrived early this morning (-6 hours, Nic.) My first solve of one of these cards. Lot of sentimental value of this card Very Happy . At last, something for math lovers, I like this!
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As an additional note, one of Sam Loyd's famous classical problems was the "Plato's Cubes". Funny coincidence Smile.

http://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/Plato.shtml

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Right,

Anyone interested in the solution read along...
The lake, which is a triangle, has three sides that are known to us. Let's say A, B and C.

A= Square root of 74
B= Square root of 116
C= Square root of 370

According to Heron's formula the Area of the triangle when all 3 sides are known can be derived from the formula:

ABC= Square root of [S(S-A)(S-B)(S-C)]

where S= (A+B+C)/2

In our case we have
A= 8.602325267
B= 10.77032961
C= 19.23538406

Hence,
S=19.30401947
Replacing S, A, B and C in the formula we get the area of the triangle

Area of ABC= 11

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Hi Michalis, any chance that you could add spoiler tags to your answer please, for the unwary browser amongst us? Smile

If you aren't sure how to do it, just use [ spoiler ] before the text and [ /spoiler ] afterwards - removing the spaces.

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