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[mupdan]

Warning to Firebox shoppers

[Hunting4Treasure]

Oh no, Dan! I'm so sorry!
And now, I'm so scared!

[Gibbet]

Not wishing to further spread panic, I also have just received 4/4 wave 1 packs in my latest order (thankfully 2 were ones i needed, but its still another 22 low colour duplicates).

On the flip side of this, my previous order contained 4/4 wave 2 packs (although 2 were identical), so i think that it is not Firebox trying to get rid of wave 1 cards so much as a general lack of randomness in their selection.

If it were the case of wave 1 and wave 2 cards in separate boxes then one would expect them just to pick 3 of one and 1 of the other. I suspect that Firebox themselves may get them mixed together. This would explain why they can't be sold as separate waves and also why the randomness is not really working.

But obviously I don't know this for a fact and will wait for their response expectantly before I order any more this weekend.

[Juxta]

Agreed Gibbet, my own order this week was 7 wave 2 packs, 5 wave 1. I think that it's not a case of there being wave 1 packs left, and they are attempting to shift them, but more likely that Firebox/Mind Candy don't necessarily know themselves exactly what you'd get if you picked out 10 packs at random - apart from the assurance that the ratio is 3:1, which I'm guessing came from their printers.

Pure [SPEC] only, but I don't think that there is some evil corporate capitalist scheme in place here...get thee along to PerplexCityTrades.com and lets get this show on the road

J

[MrsMonkey]

Same think has happened to me - got 4 packs today off Firebox, all wave 1. I've e-mailed to complain as well - just have to wait and see what their response is I guess.......

[Hunting4Treasure]

A member on the PerplexCity forum also placed an order yesterday, and all of her cards were wave 1, too! My luck hasn't been very good in the past (very few blacks and only 2 silvers), so I hope my luck turns around this time!

Out of curiosity, were the silver wrappers different for wave 1 and 2? I bought *several* packs of wave 1, and always got the same 2 wrappers (coffee cup and parking meter), although I've heard there were more. I'm just wondering if the packaging may be a clue?

***edit***
Speak of the devil... Were your ears burning, MrsMonkey?

[locqust]

I can't really remember what was on my packs design wise but I know there wasn't any visible difference. Out of 8 packs ordered only 1 was 1st wave, so pretty happy bout that, however already have swaps for wave 2!

Btw if anybody is interested in swapping them let me know and I'll tell you what I have, I have all of wave 1 though.

[chichiri]

I ordered 8 packs on wednesday that were 6 wave 2 and 2 wave 1, but then I ordered another 4 packs yesterday and they were all wave 1!
the likelyhood of this happening to so many people is not huge, there must be something wrong!

no fair!

no da!

[mupdan]

My guess is that wave 2 boxes of cards contain, as they say, a 3:1 ratio of wave 2 packs to wave 1 packs, but they still have some wave 1 boxes and have been using them to fulfill orders. I don't really expect them to do anything (they don't have to given the disclaimers on the website), but if they have been using wave 1 boxes by mistake, they need to mix them up with some wave 2 ones.

Although I did get 2 winter catalogues, and both of the codes on the back were 5 pounds off. Must resist ordering until they respond to my email....

[timair]

Arrgh - I ordered a bunch of things (to get the starter pack) including several packs of cards.

I'll be looking very closely at the packs to see if there's a difference between wave 1 and wave 2.

I'll wait to hear what Firebox say before opening any of them.
If they are unopened they may possible take them back and resend once they've sorted out their randomisation.

[Juxta]

Bad news I fear, there is no outward difference between the packs for wave 1 and wave 2 - trust me, I looked darned hard at them, but there really doesn't appear to be any way of discerning between them without actually opening them.

J

[amliag]

oh no everso worried about today's order now. Altho I do still need lots of wave 1 but don't want to miss out on the wave 2 fun.
But thinking about it - couldn't this still happen if you went to buy cards from a shop if there's no difference in the packaging? You could ask for 4 packs from the assistant, open them and they still could be all wave 1 and no refund as you'd opened the pack.

[European Chris]

[Curlytek]

Ah, but the 3:1 ratio would probably come with a disclaimer saying "Actual ratio may vary", and unless you bought a whole box (or more than 25% of a freshly opened box) then they could argue that you were just unlucky.

Nevertheless, this sucks hard. They had better make damn sure that the next release uniquely comprises Wave 3 cards....otherwise they may possibly lose a large number of PPC players.

[European Chris]