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[spugmeistress]

[Hituro]

Revelations was my first thought from the image of the angel with the key, but the references there, to the key of hades and death (once) and the key to the abyss (twice) don't have anything to do with a horse and a ring of fire

[cthrag yaska]

Is here a good place to list what's been tried and failed, to save people retrying things?

FWIW, following the Dante ideas I tried:

[mupdan]

Hi all,
I just got this card, and think there may be slightly more to it than the text (maybe, possibly). Looking closely at it, the print is ever so slightly blurred (unless that's my eyes) and some sections, notably the penultimate paragraph, seem to have something else written behind the actual text.

Of course, this may be nothing but artistically making it look like a print book (one of the 't's is smudged too), but I've been playing this game long enough now to know that nothing can be taken at face value on these cards...

[Tonbo Karasu]

I had a bit of a look through some books (of the Bible and others) and here's more or less what I found out.

The beginning of Revelation has an Angel holding an open book, but without a key. There are a lot of references to groups of 7 (Cities, angels, plagues...) in the book but, as previously mentioned, less keys.

Ezekiel has the 4 living creatures with 4 faces and wheels within wheels, as well as flame coming out of a cloud. I didn't have von Daniken as it turned out, but a book of speculation by a NASA engineer explaining how the imagery is actally a spaceship but I still think Chariot of the Gods is worth a look.

Interestingly, I noticed that my fiancée's copy of 'Science & Health' is actually called "Science and Health, a key to the Scriptures". Are there any Christian Scientists out there who would know whether or not there are more keys in Christian Science?

Actually, just had a thought. Don't the Scientologists have steps and keys on the way to being a higher being (or whatever it is they do) ?

[acimstudent]

First post on this forum after being amazed with the level of thinking that goes on here.

Anyway, I stumbled across the following on a web site dealing with Egyptian God Forms:

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The four forms of the Sphynx are:

The Bull

The Eagle or Hawk

Angel or Man

Lion
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The same page mentions "Keys Of Governance" and the Great Angel.

Digging around further, I found this:

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Decree of Canopus

also called Table of Tanis ancient bilingual, trigraphic Egyptian decree that provided a key for deciphering hieroglyphic and the simpler demotic scripts. The decree, written in Greek, demotic, and hieroglyphs, was promulgated March 7, 238 BC, by an assemblage of priests in honour of Ptolemy Euergetes and his consort Berenice. The two copies of the decree discovered at Tanis (modern San al-Hajar al-Qibliyah) in 1866 are considered by many scholars to be second only to the Rosetta Stone in their value for deciphering ancient Egyptian.

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I also found that the reigns of Pharoahs are described in terms of the star that was rising at the start and end of their reigns, which include Arcturus and Rigel.

Also the Tulli Papyrus, a doubtful Egyptian scroll mentions "rings of fire" in the sky which are thought to be reports of UFO sightings.

What the horse has to do with all this I don't know (Chariots of the Gods?).. and why all this Egypt stuff should be in a convent in first place...

Anyway something to put into the blender...

[Rube2k]

I'm pleased to say that I've solved this card and had my answer accepted. I'll post it tomorrow if it isn't solved on here first.

What I will say though is that your worst enemy would be over-thinking the answer or looking too deep. For a silver card I think most will find the solution simpler than expected and this in itself has made the card fairly fiendish!

[Langley Moor]

Having looked into this some more, the animals are the other three faces of a cherub, or angel, according to Ezekiel. These four also appear on tarot cards, namely the wheel of fortune and the world, and the three animals and man as part of the zodiac make up the 'grand cross'. The four also represent the four elements. All this information si here along with more:

http://www.nick2211.yage.net/aug18.htm

[ammonite]

[doublecross]

Congratulations, Rube2K!

Oddly on the card's solve page (which you can see by clicking on it in Rube2K's leaderboard entry) it says that nightingale solved the card first, although she doesn't appear in the list of those who solved it.

[robspot]

[Rube2k]

SOLVED

[wokerbee]

Thanks a lot Rube2K and congrats on the solve id been looking at the book of ekekiel but could only find pieces of text mentioning some things but couldnt piece them all together.
thanks again

[uneasyjd]

Bravo! Somebody slap on a [SOLVED]!