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space cadet · Boot Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 13 Location: Derby

Is it just me or does this all sound too obscure. I mean we're all stabbing in the dark, but there are thousands of crystals to choose from with no obvious way of finding out which it is. My brother is browsing through 'crystallography for beginners' from the uni where he works, but he's no closer to finding out what it is. Remember, even if you find the x-ray for the right crystal you might not even realise, as it's unlikely to be taken from the same angle!
So, if it is a case of finding the correct crystal, we definitely need to determine the structure first of all. My brother seems to think it might be 'orthorhombic' or 'face-centered orthorhombic'. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_structure. From that I've just tried:

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:19 am

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chichiri · Decorated Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 207

Would we not need to make a more complex molecule by mirroring the diagram?

no da

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:25 pm

sherbet · Boot Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 20

ok, ive updated the list, ill try and do it every now and then, as i know that one person is using it at least! ta alisdair! Smile

i had a fab time with the fairies, theyre here tapping at the window now, you should really join em sometime. sadly, they didnt know the answer either! but i have a plan, ill leave notes fer santa, baby jebus, the angels and mr hankey, one of them might know!

tomby, pls can you confirm if those were def fails, didnt want to add em to the list as wasnt sure!

on an unrelated, but very important note, that may well effect the future of mankind, the schuh online sale has started! yaaaaaaay!!! ive gone all funny, is it hot in here? Wink

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:24 pm

ALISDAIRPARK

I'd put my money on Mr Hankey, for sthg lethal he should know - Hi de HO!

Don't you be spending all your money on shoes now, show some self restraint!

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:58 pm

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Hobbess · Kl00 Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Glasgow

Wow, good collection of fails sherbert Very Happy

We have been everywhere on this one from my very dodgy "sex lethal" to "milk" and the "common cold" all the way to "N-acetyl-p-benzoquinone-imine"

Looks like about 110ish fails of the 450 registered. Now where though?

Let us know if you hear anything from Santa, switching off from PPcity for a few days over Christmas, need to stop falling asleep trying to think of 8 letter words for "thirteenth labour" and crystals for this one. Confused

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:01 pm

formula99 · Kilroy Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 1

I am trying to 'think different' on this one, so I have tried the following:

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:12 pm

space cadet · Boot Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 13 Location: Derby

Robin: "Gosh, if I could just figure out that riddle. Why can't I get it?"
Batman: "Maybe your mind's on that cute little teenager who waved to you on the way across town, eh?"
Robin: "Awww, come on, Batman."

WTF is D-mandelonitrile-beta-D-glucoside? If the answer turns out to be something this ridiculous I'll roll up my DL card and smoke it!

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:32 pm

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space cadet · Boot Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 13 Location: Derby

Welcome to the forum by the way formula99, and best of luck in solving this diabolical puzzle!

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:38 pm

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tsh · Boot Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 13 Location: Cambs

Can someone try

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:57 pm

Forgery · Decorated Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 158

not

**Posted:** Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:26 pm

Lord Dawn · Greenhorn Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 4 Location: Scotland

Hi, I'm back again to risk another trouting (verb?)

At the start of this thread, people were talking about this being a simple crystal, and these last pages are full of ever more obscure chemicals.

How about a different tack?
The pic is crystallography - and perhaps that is all it tells us - nothing more.
The title is "Differently Lethal". This could be a cryptic clue telling us that we are looking for an anagram of "lethal".

Going down this road, I tried Hallet who seems (in google) to be mentioned along with crystallography. (It's an odd spelling as most Hallett's have 2 T's.

It was wrong, but could this be a valid train of thought?

...

A Ms Rachel Morgan Theall, is also a chemist at the University of Arizona

...

**Posted:** Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:29 pm

GasparLewis

We've considered anagramming "lethal" before, this is true, but not for names, and not with those results.

So, now we have another to look into once we really re-convene.

**Posted:** Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:52 pm

corylus · Kilroy Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 2

Hi there

Am new to this forum although I've been lurking for some time!

I work in the chemistry department of a large Uni and have asked one of my crystallographer colleagues if he can get anything out of it. He says the following (spoilered just in case!):

**Posted:** Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:45 pm