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ryandrew

I think we don't trust Miranda purely because we are a paranoid people. If there hadn't have been a mole in our midst back in october, we would probably be much more (ok, a tiny bit more) trusting. Heck, most of us don't trust Sente, especially since we now KNOW he is connected to Viendenbourg, and there are a fair few of us who have our suspicions about Violet.

**Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:27 pm

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Kurt: Don't call me sugar if you want to keep on talking in this room
Caine: I need very urgently to be far more drunk than this.
Anna: Noo! Violet, please don't hit me with that lead pipe! Arrghhhh.........

travelling performer? · Veteran Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 77

**Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:31 pm

ryandrew

Violet has several reasons not to trust her:

1)She had that mysterious vanishing post.
2)She has designed but two puzzle cards. One of them just happened to be amongst the 5 leaked cards received in the bag of the third power mole.
3)She was absent from the ball the night the cube was stolen, meaning she had no alibi.
4)Her first name starts with V, and as such we are compelled not to trust her!

**Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:43 pm

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Kurt: Don't call me sugar if you want to keep on talking in this room
Caine: I need very urgently to be far more drunk than this.
Anna: Noo! Violet, please don't hit me with that lead pipe! Arrghhhh.........

travelling performer? · Veteran Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 77

**Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:45 pm

GasparLewis

Two cards?
She's not even on the team!

For all her help, we need to remember she's not officially with the CRT.
If anything, the fact she made even one card is curious, let alone two.

**Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:13 pm

Scott

wait wait .. which did she design?

I wish the Card Cataloge cataloged who created what cards. Brian, is that a possibility?

**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:26 am

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If it helps, Violet's cards are the poker related ones, The Red Ace and Pocket Rockets.

**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:23 am

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Kurt: Don't call me sugar if you want to keep on talking in this room
Caine: I need very urgently to be far more drunk than this.
Anna: Noo! Violet, please don't hit me with that lead pipe! Arrghhhh.........

number9dream

**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:45 am

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Juxta · Unfettered Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 675

Violet isn't the only non-CRT member to scribe a card - Sente has done a fair few (eight), there are a number from members of the Mind Candy team and numerous "Guests" - given that Violet has contributed two cards thus far, and both are on her very own specialist subject, I see no reason for distrust here.

Scott - hope this helps

Red
#009 - Red - Ishihara - Aiko
#010 - Red - Spot Anything? - Aiko - Photographer R.C.James
#011 - Red - Revelation - Aiko
#012 - Red - Alco-Poetry - Uncredited - comedian Demetri Martin is the poet
#013 - Red - Sphinx - Aiko
#014 - Red - Cracked Crackers - Von - most of the jokes appear to be the nigh on satanic work of Jimmy Tarbuck however.
#015 - Red - Milo - Uncredited - The cat however is "Milo", the owner of one Mr. J.Berkovi
#016 - Red - XXX - Tippy
#017 - Red - Easy As... - Guest Artist Tom Boardman
#018 - Red - Natal Name - Anna
#019 - Red - Magic Numbers - Von
#020 - Red - Barbeque - Sente
#021 - Red - Divide By Three - Caine
#022 - Red - Cold Fission - Sente
#023 - Red - Pack O'Stars - Guest Puzzle Architect/Artist Tom Slack
#024 - Red - Double Vision - Anna
#025 - Red - Read Between The Lines - Uncredited
#027 - Red - Bar None - Kurt

Orange
#041 - Orange - Whipsmart Wordsearch - Guest Artist Matt Jones
#042 - Orange - Pirates vs Ninjas - Artist Anton Bogaty - Guest Puzzle Architect Adrian Hon
#043 - Orange - Use Your Anterior Cingulate - Tippy
#044 - Orange - You Are Here - Von
#045 - Orange - Snake Eyes - Uncredited - Ken Knowlton is the artist who created the mosaic
#046 - Orange - Sum Shortcut - Kurt
#047 - Orange - Opposites Attract - Anna
#048 - Orange - Pop Words - Anna
#049 - Orange - Bookworm - Anna
#050 - Orange - Eight States - Guest Puzzle Architect Matt Shone
#051 - Orange - Jigsaw - Guest Puzzle Architect Andrea Phillips
#052 - Orange - The View From Here - Uncredited
#053 - Orange - Etaoin Schrdlu - Garnet
#054 - Orange - 9 Ball - Caine
#055 - Orange - Speed Sight - Aiko
#056 - Orange - Gravity - Kurt
#057 - Orange - Volume - Anna
#059 - Orange - Urban Myths - Von

Yellow
#073 - Yellow - Animal Magic - Anna
#074 - Yellow - WordSpy - Anna - Guest Puzzle Architect Steve Robertson/Reef
#075 - Yellow - Poison Pill - Kurt
#076 - Yellow - Close Up - Guest Puzzle Architect Justin Berkovi
#077 - Yellow - Mondegreen - Caine
#078 - Yellow - Edible Love - Anna
#079 - Yellow - Strange Loops - Sente
#080 - Yellow - Cruel and Unusual - Anna - Artist Anton Bogaty
#081 - Yellow - What Car? - Guest Puzzle Architect Justin Berkovi
#082 - Yellow - Sharp Red - Assume it to be Kurt, although not signed, the card features an email to him.
#083 - Yellow - Pawnbroking - Garnet
#084 - Yellow - Insights - Kurt
#085 - Yellow - Sweet Dreams - Sente
#086 - Yellow - A Pair of Squares - Garnet
#087 - Yellow - Bar Crossing - Kurt
#088 - Yellow - Pyramidal - Sente
#089 - Yellow - Forever Foe - Guest Puzzle Architect Andrea Phillips - Guest Artist Felix Klessling
#091 - Yellow - Twisty Little Passages - Guest Puzzle Architect/Artist - Andrea Gilbert

Green
#105 - Green - Arrange My Lace Bits - Tippy
#106 - Green - Rickety Old Bridge - Sente
#107 - Green - Blockword - Aiko
#108 - Green - My Three Children - Anna
#109 - Green - Infinite Series - Kurt
#110 - Green - Freudian Texts - Von
#111 - Green - Opening Lines - Von
#112 - Green - Three Little Words - Tippy
#113 - Green - A Capital Idea - Von
#114 - Green - Taking the Biscuit - Guest Puzzle Architect Michael Smith
#115 - Green - The Age of Sente - Anna
#116 - Green - The Rice Gambit - Guest Puzzle Architect Michael Smith
#117 - Green - Band Name Etymology - Caine
#118 - Green - Chemistry Experiment - Kurt
#119 - Green - Mind the Gap - Guest Puzzle Architect Andrea Gilbert
#120 - Green - Cube Tube - Guest Puzzle Architect/Artist Andrea Gilbert
#121 - Green - Seven Bridges - Garnet
#123 - Green - Illogical - Tippy

Blue
#137 - Blue - Sub Rosa - Anna
#138 - Blue - Geek Antiques - Kurt
#139 - Blue - This Sentence Is False - Aiko
#140 - Blue - Mornington Crescent - Von
#141 - Blue - Love Code - Guest Puzzle Architect Michael Smith
#142 - Blue - Photoshopped - Guest Puzzle Architect Justin Berkovi - the individal pictured would be one Mr. Michael Smith in formative years (and very fetching stripey t-shirt)
#143 - Blue - Pocket Rockets - Violet
#144 - Blue - Mastermind - Tippy
#145 - Blue - The Red Ace - Violet
#146 - Blue - You Are Cordially Invited - Sente
#147 - Blue - Directionless - Guest Puzzle Architect/Artist Andrea Gilbert
#148 - Blue - Serious Scientific Sokoban - Kurt - Guest Puzzle Artist Andrea Gilbert
#149 - Blue - Complex Basic - Guest Puzzle Architect Josh Brandt
#150 - Blue - A Journey in the Desert - Garnet
#151 - Blue - Crazy Talk - Anna - Guest Puzzle Artist Felix Klessling
#152 - Blue - Barcode Recipe - Kurt
#153 - Blue - The Spider and the Fly - A classic puzzle credited to Henry Ernest Dudeney, 1903
#155 - Blue - Sadako Sasaki - Aiko

Purple
#169 - Purple - Queen Quandary - Tippy
#170 - Purple - Vexillogy - Uncredited, the note at the bottom is *from* Sente, *to* it's scribe.
#171 - Purple - Witch Script - Anna
#172 - Purple - Freefall - Kurt
#173 - Purple - The 14-15 Puzzle - A classic puzzle credited to Sam Loyd
#174 - Purple - Jaunty Paul - Tippy
#175 - Purple - Binary - Kurt
#176 - Purple - The Lake - A classic puzzle credited to Sam Loyd
#177 - Purple - Consider a Spherical World - Kurt
#178 - Purple - Sex Linked - Kurt
#179 - Purple - By Another Name - Von
#180 - Purple - ARG! - Uncredited
#181 - Purple - Down, A, B, Up, Up, Right - Kurt
#182 - Purple - Transit - Uncredited
#183 - Purple - Drinking Gourd - Kurt
#184 - Purple - Love Letters - Tippy
#185 - Purple - Spin Cycle - Uncredited
#187 - Purple - Logical Fallacies - Anna

Black
#206 - Black - Mexid Massege - Anna
#208 - Black - Freak Word - Tippy
#209 - Black - Little Pigley Farm - A classic puzzle credited to W.T.Williams and G.H.Savage
#210 - Black - New Notation - Guest puzzle architect/artist Adrian Hon
#211 - Black - Molecular - Kurt
#212 - Black - Whipsmart Birthday - Kurt
#213 - Black - We Be Rational Pirates! Arr! - Kurt
#214 - Black - Traces - Guest puzzle architect Andrew McCarthy
#215 - Black - Harmony - Caine
#216 - Black - Formal Logic - Guest puzzle architect Andrew McCarthy
#217 - Black - Tower of Cubes - Garnet
#219 - Black - The Master of Secrets - Guest puzzle architect Margaret Maitland - Artist Adrian Hon

Silver
#238 - Silver - Riemann - Uncredited
#240 - Silver - Elucidate - Guest puzzle architect Adrian Hon
#241 - Silver - T-L-P - Guest puzzle architect Andrew McCarthy
#242 - Silver - Ciphers of History - Sente
#243 - Silver - Shuffled - Garnet
#244 - Silver - Syzygy Cube - Guest puzzle architect Dan Fabulich
#245 - Silver - Relativity - Guest puzzle architect Richard Baker
#246 - Silver - Homage in Glass - Aiko
#247 - Silver - Polar - Guest puzzle architect Kate Harris
#248 - Silver - Differently Lethal - Kurt
#249 - Silver - The Angel's Key - Guest puzzle architect N.Alderman
#251 - Silver - The Thirteenth Labour - Kurt

For the stat fans out there, here are the running totals for who is earning their keep on the CRT so far Wink

Kurt - 23
Anna - 17
Tippy - 10
Von - 9
Aiko - 9
Garnet - 7
Caine - 5

That said, I'm not advocating that anyone gets the boot yet, we've only seen 50% of the cards so far...Garnet for example would have had only two cards to his name had we counted them up after wave 1.

J

**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:20 pm

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**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:19 pm

patrick · Boot Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 37 Location: london(ish)

Maybe. But that assumes the message was part of the album when Hesh first received it, and we really don't know that much.
Could be that it was added at some point later. IMHO, it wasn't Viard or Hesh who added it. Possibly someone else in the music industry.
Possibly even someone at Mind Candy...

But I bet we could get some more answers if Tippy did a bit of probing... Wink

**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:43 pm

Forgery · Decorated Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 158

I think there is more to that CD than we've already got. We've found our main 'hidden' message but I think there is more to be explored on that CD. What? I don't know, waiting till I get a new comp, next few weeks, to get pro tools out on it. But until then, I still feel certain there is more to be discovered

Forg

**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:41 pm

travelling performer? · Veteran Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 77

We were asked to find out about the message, by emailing Hesh. So far, everyone has got his auto-reply.

I'm betting the way to find out isnt by emailing Hesh, at least not directly about the subject.

But as Kurt says, noone in perplex city is supposed to have heard the CD. So it is us who have to extract the info.. just how to ask him is the question.

**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:44 pm

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**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:08 pm

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Juxta · Unfettered Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 675

Shhhh.... Don't. Give. People. Ideas!

*Juxta stomps off to start making the "Save the Kurt!" banners and website

J

**Posted:** Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:51 pm

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