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[ALISDAIRPARK]

Hally, could you confirm the numbers you are using?

[hally]

208, 352, 8, 305
264, 493, 384, 316
123, 204, 468, 50, 205
143, 233, 220
221, 5
517, 466
312, 487

They are the ones Kvasir translated on page 2.

Hally

[ALISDAIRPARK]

Thanks Hally. I almost certain the numbers should be read backwards then (as you have done). The numbers as Kvasir has put them read left to right, but Hebrew reads the other way.

It seems too much of a coincidence that all the even numbered lines seem to translate and none of the odd ones do. Was it just gibberish for the odd numbered lines?

[hally]

When I translated the numbers as they read (208 352 8 305 etc), I discovered the following:

Vigorous strong man / mighty tree destruction oh that
Fraternity God is delight God is with me a following host
Red strength god is a rock my father is rescue trouble
Glorious then manger
Fiery God-given
Mother my God set him apart
Another oak of the king

And with the numbers reverse (802 253 8 503 etc):

Woman alas! Destruction a thousand fold
Unto God are my eyes cruel silent imprisonment
Other food with them God-given to learn
Enemy shut up God is my father
Red God-given
Fugitive enclosure
Make haste fire

[ALISDAIRPARK]

doesn't mean much to me..

I've done the numbers for the Atbashed characters:
3-60 2-9-300 60 2-90
3-8-100 1-5-200 2-6-100 2-40-80
4-30-200 3-100 1-8-60 9 3-90
4-10-200 30-20-200 30-30
3-30-400 90
90-40-70 1-8-80
2-40-300 1-6-70

which if simply added together gives:
63 311 60 92
111 251 108 122
234 103 69 9 93
214 250 60
433 90
200 898
342 77

I tried the site you've been using Hally, but mainly got place or people names back.

I'm going to investigate the Hale route now.

[groovygirl20]

or if u add all the numbers together u get 5964 which is a town in benjamin called alemeth which sounds like "i like math" that was using halleys numbers *backwards is strife*

using ALISDAIRPARKs numbers i got 4190 which is saving act or deliverance and that backwards is to divide or seperate

[hally]

Indeed it does. Have you tried entering either of those 'alemeth' or 'i like math'?

[groovygirl20]

have you?

[hally]

No, i didn't want to waste an attempt should you have already tried it and failed!

[ALISDAIRPARK]

I think we are looking for a message, I'm expected something like "this class is boring" or "meet me behind the bike sheds"...

[groovygirl20]

well i dont have any other cards to solve

alemeth didnt work

but i shall research into it

*edit* i agree but it says bout embarrassment so? lol i dont think i wanna no what it says

*edit*and for the hell of it i like math didnt work either!

*edit* my translation says:
"gathering my brother is help, guided an oak, i will be silent and poor seperate" well the 1st bit makes sense!

*final edit* "man of shame, god has made this temple, lie in wait... recieve not between!" .... that sounds rude! and i changed temple god has made to god has made this temple... but in the bible im sure theres a reference that your body is a temple of god, so maybe this is about a prostitute? hes shamed and hes lying and hes not supposed to recieve inbetween lol

[duckiemonster]

[Garath]

Just wondering...

It looks to me as if David Kahn's "The Codebreakers" would be very useful for this. Unfortunately, I can't lay hands on a copy, so I thought I'd throw out a random idea:

Long lists of numbers in a code can often be a book code. What if it's a book code *to that book*? Does anyone have a copy, to check?

--Garath

[hally]

It's a good idea Garath. I thought the same when I found the book Ciphers of History by Enrico Mario Santi but it was to no avail. The one point of interest however was the similarity between the author's surname 'Santi' and the architect of the card 'Sente'.

Can't say I have the book you're looking for though.

Hally