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[doomsdayred]

[ALISDAIRPARK]

I can't be certain, due the broken link, and the wonderfully descriptive name, but I think it's this one:

http://www.hypermaths.org/quadibloc/crypto/pp0105.htm

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The motorbike

[BBuck]

Might be on to something regarding the mapping of the 108 characters in the middle.

I formed a grid to convert pairs of characters to numbers. AA=1, BA=2, ZA=26, AB=27 and so on, up to ZZ=676. I then listed the pairs in order (going with them in the order they are written, ie WB BM CH etc). This gives:

AA 1
AM 313
BM 314

etc, with the complete list as:

1,313,314,185,419,499,655,188,292,526,137,215,527,553,605,631,346,
398,35,191,373,503,36,296,374,504,401,583,298,610,377,199,18,486,
616,331,151,307,48,334,594,49,205,647,24,388,285,311,363,597,416

Then dividing by modulo 13 gives the following result:

1,1,2,3,3,5,5,6,6,6,7,7,7,7,7,7,8,
8,9,9,9,9,10,10,10,10,11,11,12,12,0,4,5,5,
5,6,8,8,9,9,9,10,10,10,11,11,12,12,12,12,0

This is far too neat to be random. I think it shows that there is definitely an order to the pairs of letters, and that the idea of mapping them onto 1-52 is the way forward.

Ignore the above: mathematical naivety (see post below)

[addybobble]

Hi, on the subject of bikes I was thinking we could be talking about a wheel cipher such as a Jefferson wheel cipher. Kind of corny, I know, but there are lots of ciphers relating to wheels (eg. Lorenz).

Maybe that's what the clue is about, rather than literally being a bike.

[Jakeo]

[BBuck]

[Jakeo]

[BBuck]

[Jakeo]

Thank goodness you spotted that. I was staring at the numbers trying to work out why they had the same frequency as some of the text analysis I had done.

See this is what happens when you try doing crypto while pretending to be working!

[Danives]

Just something I did here, dunno what to do with it so maybe someone can use it to do something useful, lol. Its a chart where I separated the code into two letters in each cell, along with the alphabet number realtions next to them. Maybe someone will see something

[arcangel]

i have a cunning idea
the code on the box is definatly a solitare cypher
the code is written in the appropraite 5 letter combinations (apart from LUL)
as the card is asking for a name, we can assume the heat hidden letters (first two and last two) are the ones we are decoding

all we need now is the pack of cards and its order

ive hear some people talk about the PerplexCity cards having traditional card markings on them (for example card 41 - whipsmart wordsearch- which has the marking - 9 of dimonds)
these cards could be our deck, (with the card numbers showing there original order)
all we are missing are the jokers.
all the cards with suit markings are prime numbers(cant rembeber were i heard that but its correct)
, and there are 54 prime numbers in the perplex city cards
so can somone with more cards (maybe the whole set) figure out which cards are the jokers??

and then we can work out the solitare cypher, crack the code, and catch us a worm maker?

whos with me> ??

[Danives]

This is what we've been trying to do for ages. First when submitting the answer it asks for what the message reads. Second its more likely to be the main bit of text seeing as heat sensitive letters disapear rather than appear. Also, the cards can be solved independantly of everything esle, everything you need is on the card and in your mind.

Finally, the deck is in its original order, the ONLY touched card is the joker, so if it was the solitaire cipher it would be using a new deck that hasnt been shuffled.

All you stated has been said previously, and a lot more if you want to look and find some more ideas.

Dan

[arcangel]

well there goes that cunning plan
sorry for wasting your time dan

[Danives]

It wasnt a waste of time, it was a good reminder, and its also gd to see more people trying to solve it and joining Unfcition to try and help solve the puzzles Although you'd prob want that from one of the more distinguished members, lol.

As far as I can see, Im pretty uncertain that its a solitaire cipher, because otherwise the deck should be in order. Although its probably a cipher that depends on the order of the words, seeing as the heat sensitive words disapear, if we found the correct cipher to use and used the whole code we would get the wrong answer, so it is very likely its not a substitution cipher. Im still thinking that the 108 characters being halfed can be related to a pack of cards (108/2 being 54), and the fact they talk about poker it may be something to do with that, although what I'm not sure...my brain hurts!! lol