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[LOCKED] [Puzzle] #243 Silver - Shuffled
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Danives
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Well at any case, here is the program Ive made. Its very simple to run, just double click on the bat file. To start it running, just put in the location of the dictionary file you want to use (if you wish to use your own, make sure every word is on a different line) then put in the keyword you want to search the cipher text for, eg. "THE" (you shouldnt have to worry about putting it in caps, the program converts it to caps anyway), and then the text you want to decode. It will save the results in the folder you extracted the zip file to, under "saved.txt" if memory serves me right.

Make sure you extract the files within the zip to one folder, and run the bat file. The only condition for using it is that if you get the solve, it must be posted. Thanks Smile

Oh and in reply to you bilbo, it may not help, but the more people you have doing it, the more varied results it will bring I guess! And theres always room for people to do their own dictionary attacks on it Smile

PS: Just for those who dont know, a dictionary file is just a text file with a list of words in it. Happy hunting!
Solitaire.zip
Description  New version with a bug fix and now program says how many results were found. Also included is a small word list named list.txt, although you should find your own. There are some on http://www.cotse.com/
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Filename  Solitaire.zip 
Filesize  110.45KB 
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Danives
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Also, the program does require a lot of cpu power, and will slow your computer down. With a small dictionary list (under a meg) it shouldnt take very long at all, but with higher dictionaries it could take upto 5 minutes possibly. You just have to let it run, and it will notify you when it is finished now. I didnt manage to make something that states the program is running, but the start button stays depressed until its finished.
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Danives
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Ok, I SWEAR this will be my last muliple post now, lol. Ive created a second version of the program, which allows people to enter a keyword to check all the solitaire cipher results against, like the first one, but also allows you to make a list of keywords, so you could leave the sofware running overnight. You create these words like you would the wordlist e.g. text file with each word on a line. An example would be

RECEDA
CUBE
THE
WOMAN
HELP

Then it will run using all the different dictionary words as keywords, and then look through each cipher result and see if any of your chosen words show up. This is basically version 2 of the program. The reason I dont delete the other is because I havent fully tested this program yet :S lol. Anyway, good luck all!
Version 2.zip
Description  Works same as before, choose the first button if you just want to look for one word, or the second and a file location if you want to go through a list of keywords. It will save each keywords result in a separate file. - Updated bugfix
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:18 pm
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BBuck
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Thanks Dan. Hope you got some sleep after that coding. I'll download at home tonight and try out. In the meantime, someone might want to try the keyword

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
ALADDIN


The Djinn and Magic Lamp references (and Made in China) point this way. I wouldn't be surprised if the answer contains this as the codename of the hacker, without giving a real name. This would let the mystery continue beyond the solving of the card (which seems a big part of the overall storyline).

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Maldax
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Just a thought. How do we know we have to decrypt the message and not encrypt it? could that be the 'Shuffled' as in the wrong order? Could we have hit the right passkey just the wrong action?

Fun Fun Fun

Mal

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doomsdayred
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BBuck wrote:
Thanks Dan. Hope you got some sleep after that coding. I'll download at home tonight and try out. In the meantime, someone might want to try the keyword

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
ALADDIN


The Djinn and Magic Lamp references (and Made in China) point this way. I wouldn't be surprised if the answer contains this as the codename of the hacker, without giving a real name. This would let the mystery continue beyond the solving of the card (which seems a big part of the overall storyline).



I like the sound of that you might be on to something. One thing though Aladdin wasn't chinese, I'm fairly sure he was Arabian. The story was set in China though.

It might be worth trying some names related to the Djinn though other than Aladdin (Alauddin) the following links to the Aladdin wiki page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin

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doomsdayred
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one more thing, ok two.

It wasn't a magic lamp as such. The lamp was an ordinary oil lamp that the genie was bound to. Maybe try oil lamp.

Djinn wiki link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djinn

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doomsdayred
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Apologies for multi posting but I that maybe think I may have just struck gold.

While I don't have the time right now to check if this works, I have found this phrase,

Quote:
The genie is out of the bottle, and it is much too hard to put it back


I found it by searching "genie cipher" in google which came back with this page:

http://cactus.eas.asu.edu/partha/Columns/03-19-encryption.htm

Whats interesting is that not only is the page about encryption but genie is the english translation of Djinn and the phrase is 54 letters long.

I'll try it out later today.

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groovygirl20
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i found some anagrams!
EODMFXRUTH > the fox drum
FHURGIFULP > ruff lip hug!

but while i was lookin i found the anagram of my name is we clay laura! which sounds painful...

i dont think im onto anything i was trying to be watshername out of digital fortress Smile
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cthrag yaska
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I haven't re-trawled old messages, but I can't remember this being mentioned. I was thinking about the common idea here that the middle 108 characters code for the initial deck configuration, assuming each pair of letters in the 108-block codes for one card in the starting deck.

However, if you take them in straight pairs (WB, BM, CH etc), then the pairs SM and VM occur twice each. If you take them in two rows of 54 each, and read the pairs downwards (WR, BX, BI etc) then there are four pairs that occur twice each: BX, LH, YO, YV. If there's a straight mapping, we can't have duplicate pairs.

Unfortunately -- since I liked the idea -- this may suggest that the middle block doesn't encode the starting state of the deck; or if it does, some more devious method has been used.

DISCLAIMER: I don't have the card in front of me, and am working from the Card Catalog page here. If this has transcription errors, the above might be meaningless.

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groovygirl20
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i dont have the card either but found some more anagrams:
If entropy wins, outward looks should leave you cold
personify twin(fine snowy trip), look toward us, A cell you should dove(a chevy duel loud solo /Aloud love she cloud)

i searched some:

Quote:
Several star maps personify the twins as Apollo and Heracles

Quote:
And Peter, having looked stedfastly toward him with John, said, 'Look toward us;' Acts 3v4

(many say "look toward U.S")
a cell should you dove: Ascension Dove Creations / cells in a church called the dove church.

the last two seem to point to christianity or maybe the church did it cos they think they shouldnt be doing it
*edit* searched "church" and "djinn" together and a conference came up to do with discworld? anyone no anything bout this?(exept its terry pratchett... anyone a fan?)*endofedit*

i dont have this card so i cant guess sorry!! Smile
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BBuck
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However, if you take them in straight pairs (WB, BM, CH etc), then the pairs SM and VM occur twice each. If you take them in two rows of 54 each, and read the pairs downwards (WR, BX, BI etc) then there are four pairs that occur twice each: BX, LH, YO, YV. If there's a straight mapping, we can't have duplicate pairs.


We could have duplicate pairs if the jokers are wildcards. Speculation upthread has been than SM and VM each represent both one of the 52 playing cards and one of the two jokers. The duplication was intended to show this: ie 52 distinct pairs of letter + 2 repeats = 52 cards + 2 Jokers.

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cthrag yaska
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Speculation upthread has been than SM and VM each represent both one of the 52 playing cards and one of the two jokers.


So assuming we worked out a mapping for the letter-pairs to normal cards, we'd be left with at least four starting decks:

Code:
SM1=card, SM2=joker; VM1=card, VM2=joker
SM1=card, SM2=joker; VM1=joker, VM2=card
SM1=joker, SM2=card; VM1=card, VM2=joker
SM1=joker, SM2=card; VM1=joker, VM2=card


or probably eight, since "joker" could be "normal joker" and "starred joker" in each of the four cases?

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doomsdayred
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Uhhhm yeah thats what I was thinking Confused

Sorry what? Embarassed I don't understand anymore!!!

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BBuck
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So assuming we worked out a mapping for the letter-pairs to normal cards, we'd be left with at least four starting decks...or probably eight, since "joker" could be "normal joker" and "starred joker" in each of the four cases?


Yes. Suggest you look back to page 16 of this thread, which covers some of the work done along these lines.

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