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Well to bypass the crap in between I just found a program that converts from a wav file straight to letters, not bothering to tell me the baudot so here it is (baudot decoded is only left chanell)

**Posted:** Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:20 am

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xnbomb

One more time, with feeling

**Posted:** Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:43 pm

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I was wondering whether this might actually be binary data (image, sound) instead of text. However you probably can't fit much into 2kb and I have not seen any signature or magic number yet either. Anyway here's the data saved as a regular binary file.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:40 am

Rogi Ocnorb

As a further exercise in futility, I've taken xnbomb's latest output and applied all of the 5-bit tables I could find.
Here are two tables of data where the transaction is wholly inclusive from top to bottom. They are again in Rich Text Format which is viewable in windows' "Wordpad" application.

The "Murray Based" table has a single column for Letters as they are the same in all of those implementations. They differ only in the Figures columns.
The Non-Murray Based" table is all of the others I was able to find. Each implementation has two columns. One for the Letters and one for the Figures.

All of this was done on the assumption that as the frequencies, baud, start/stop bits were all in line with the basic norm for this kind of transmission, the bit patterns would be in the normal arrangement as well.
I did not flip the binary values of the bits or change the order in which they are read (LSB to MSB).

Any control characters are wrapped in square brackets as are any data "bytes" where the text representation is actually two or more bytes ("[9/]" or "[12]", for example). "[NUL]" represents a wait state while "[NL]" represents a New Line. "[LS]" and "[FS]" are "Letters Shift" and "Figures Shift", respectively.

I gathered the table information from several sources, but the best I found were:
The graphic presented here:
and
This page (Note, I did not include any of the implementations listed under "Reverse".)

Much of the information is duplicative since I could not determine which of two similar resources had the error in the table data.

Sooooo much data... Sooooo little encouragement.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:03 pm

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grumpyboy · Unfettered Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 660

heh, it's the same puzzle twice... SO similar to the milwaukee note puzzle Wink

Rogi Ocnorb

He does it again! Thanks, Grumpy.
I learned a lot, too.
Really should have focused more on the asterisks.
Gonna have to read up on the whole Occam's Razor thing, again.
I wish I could pull clues out of hints like you do.
Now, time to free up several gigs of space on my drive.

EDIT:
Also a note to the PM's regarding the puzzle...
Excellent.
Perfect fit to the story, The plausibility, method and execution were right on. And the fact that once we identified the basic data, any one of us had enough information to solve it was great.

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Dang.. beat me to it by two hours. After noticing the PI sequence I was just going through different starting points for it. Having the space as first character threw me off Sad

Good work grumpyboy!

**Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:02 am

Ehsan · Entrenched Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 992

I don't do this often enough grumpyboy:

Worshippy

I came here to post that I'm giving up on different baudets and that I think the actual decoded message we have is the correct decoding based on the futility of all other methods... It was time to get everyone to look at those digits and letters...

I can say that I was on the verge of getting it, that I knew the answer in the back of me head, but the fact is you are GOOD.. and I'm proud of playing these games with people like yourself...

Even though we missed the approach to the solution that doesn't change the fact that we progressed a lot with this puzzle. I really enjoyed working on it and added to my knowledge by learning about TTY and all that stuff I never heard of before. Besides I'd even pay to see xnbomb extract binary out of media files Smile

Hats off to the PMs for pulling out a well presented and well executed puzzle, which is something we don't often see. More of this please. They got me interested in the story now and I have a lot of catching up to do.

And grumpy... you really should participate in more games Wink

**Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:02 am

Giskard

Ok. Umm. Wow. Shocked

**Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:49 am

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**Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:05 am

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mapmaker

Umm, wow.

**Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:26 am

Dionysus

Shock.

Awe.

**Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:22 pm

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Puck90

You are one smart dude!

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You other puzzle solvers are smart dudes too

**Posted:** Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:37 pm

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here here!

**Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:54 pm

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