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ryandrew
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You all know it, PPX is biased towards Unfiction...

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So you'll all be safe and it will be people like myself, who owns every card, who has been high on the leaderboard for ages, and who applied as soon as the update was announced, will miss out.


Hmm. Yeah, you tell those unfiction members. Gee, it sure is a good job you didn't join unfiction your self, or you would seem pretty hypocritical right about now.
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ALISDAIRPARK
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What I still don't understand is why people use strange sets of initials for Perplex City? The initials are simply PC, not PXC, PPX, or any other wierd combo...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:13 am
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angelsk
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Out of curiosity, when was the update released about the signing up for the events?

My internet was down for 5 days, and I only got it back on the 9th which is when I signed up, around midday. But looknig at the forums posts it was out of on the 6th. Which is kind of a let down Sad Especially if they do it by sign up order. But I'm fairly sure it wasn't there earlier, but I can't remember - was just happy to be back online.
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ALISDAIRPARK wrote:
What I still don't understand is why people use strange sets of initials for Perplex City? The initials are simply PC, not PXC, PPX, or any other wierd combo...


used to be PPC for PerPlexCity
then folks started using PXC for PerpleXCity
PC would become very confusing given its other usages Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:41 am
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Mokey Fraggle
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I'm not sure I understand what the problem is with MC changing things to meet the needs of UnF members instead of people who play in their houses or on MSN. How can MC possibly know what you're saying to each other in your houses or over MSN?

*thinks about this... gets paranoid... checks closets and drawers for MC agents* Shocked

Wink

Also, I'm not sure I understand what the problem is with this message board. We don't exclude anyone. If an MSN-based PPC player wants to get the updates quickly, that MSN-based player is welcome to come here for updates. He or she doesn't even have to post. Just lurk away and read what you need. Cool How can anyone possibly stop them? Why would anyone want to?

So, if it sometimes looks like UnF gets special attention (which I've never studied, so I'm not certain is actually the case), then I would assume that's because we're vocal and easy to find.

And if there are certain people we'd all bet our bottom dollar will get invited to the live event, that's likely because those people are well-known for a reason: They play PPC regularly. They work on the puzzles and story lines immediately. They probably signed up for the event early.

I think what it boils down to is that UnF is a fair and useful community. If this board were password protected to allow only the "cool" people in, (then I wouldn't be here Laughing ) then UnF would be playing competitively with the rest of the world. But as it is, UnF is open and encourages people to help out or just read along for nothing.

What's wrong with that? Question

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*claps Mokey Fraggle* hear hear
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Reason
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Totally agree with you Mokey...

If you don't want to take part in the forums you don't have to. The reason people like to come and discuss the game here is for the community aspects, and this is the way ARG's are meant to be played, in my opinion anyway.

Also I think people are jumping the gun a bit in terms of invites. Nothing has been announced yet, so until it has we are probably best leaving our judgements about who will get 'special' treatment until then. We shouldn't forget that this is a free event too, MC are footing the bill it seems and what they do is really up to them. A few noses will be bent out of shape but then with only 200 out of 600 people getting invites this is going to happen. Even if people don't get invites I think it would be nice to come down and have a few drinks after anyway... I know I will. Very Happy
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amliag
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travelling performer? wrote:

What i said is my score on the leaderboard would be higher than 99% of uf members if they chose to solve things themselves instead of reading the answers.


If, as you say earlier, the cards have no bearing on the game itself, then why are you so bothered that you score is not as high as those you regard as cheating?
Surely as long as you know you have worked out all the answers yourself then that personal achievement alone should be enough to give you that warm glow and the public recognition on the leaderboard is meaningless?

As regards the live event, I believe it will be a random selection (as chichiri said). I can't imagine for one minute that Mind Candy will go through every single email to pick out their favourite players.
Originally they wanted everyone who applied to go and this selection has only become necessary due to the volume of applicants. I doubt they would have been crying into their keyboards if these favourites you suggest they have did not apply.
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GuyP
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travelling performer? wrote:
As far as the event, my money is on every well known uf member... all being there in london. And me most likely missing out. Because im not known around the community (i.e here).


Because you're not known in the community? Or because you have a victim complex?

I utterly disagree with most of the views you've espoused - it seems to me that your bitterness toward the "cheats" who read the answers off Unfiction (the majority of whom, of course, have never posted on UF) has somehow metamorphosed into a wacky Mind Candy conspiracy theory.

Regarding cards and their solutions: You strike a distinction between your collaboration with friends and our collaboration here on UF, but I'd argue this distinction is arbitary at best. Believe it or not, I consider people here to be collaborators and friends, and this is just the medium we use to work together. I'd agree that the leaderboard is an unfair reflection of a participant's puzzle-solving prowess, but how this can be considered evidence of MC's bias is beyond me. The leaderboard is probably a better reflection of how many cards a particular player has bought, which (I imagine) is what it's primarily designed to do. Even the cheats are good customers!

Unfiction, as a community, is necessary yet insufficient to the success of the game. Although our sphere of influence will probably decrease as the scope of Perplex City grows, we've been vital to the success of the game, especially in it's earliest stages. We've supported new players, bought a lot of cards, enthusiastically spread the word and consistently driven the story forward through interaction and puzzle-solving. That said, the relatively small number of players within the community just can't pay the bills, and that's why MC will continue to embrace the mainstream and make the game accessible to a wide range of players, no matter how they choose to play.

Do MC want to shun their most loyal fans and ardent supporters? Of course not. On the other hand, do they want to reject a new, curious yet tentative audience who's continued custom is by no means assured? Equally not. So they're in a pickle, undoubtedly. But the 1000% increase in numbers (from the 60 attendees in Clapham) will surely offer some comfort, and naturally inform the scale of their future plans.

Anyway, I don't intend to labour this point any more. But please, in future, check your attitude at the door. If you want to participate here, you're more than welcome, but the griping is somewhat tiresome. Your manner of participation (solving cards alone / collaborating with friends / joining UF) is up to you, and as you seem to be keenly aware of the pros and cons of each, I'm sure your choice will be an informed one.

EDIT: It's worth noting that even if you were to add up all the "favourites" from UF, and then throw in all the "not-really-favourite" players as well, you'd still be way short of 200 players.

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Juxta
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Well, I vamoose for a while to move house and come back to this...thank you to Mokey, Guy, Ryandrew and the rest of you for your well thought out, sensible, eloquent answers. I won't bother attempting to do any of that, I'll just aim for brevity (well...more than my usual rambling at least):-

Honestly...Paranoid and pathetic. If you dislike the UnFiction *community* so vehemently, why don't you go and participate in the game your own way. If I recall correctly, when you first graced us with your presence, and came in tossing insults at us all, you regaled us with tales of how you had almost single-handedly followed the entire Receda Trail. For which I must thank you - I hadn't laughed so much in months. ARGs, by their very definition, are community affairs, the Trail was cracked over the course of approximately six weeks, with numerous live events, worldwide, so I'll come out right now and say it - you're a liar.

Show me your ticket stubs for Toronto, New York, Manchester and Clapham and I'll reconsider it. Tell me which username you used for Recedas-Revenge, that long night on IRC and explain (without reference to the logs) exactly *why* sock puppets are so funny? I didn't think so. Actually, if I recall correctly, we used the puppet to dispose of a troll...perhaps we should break it out again here for you...


Mind Candy's employees are some of the most decent and genuinely nice people whom I have encountered in a long time, it is neither in their own interests nor would they want to "cut people out" deliberately. Clearly, a live event on this scale has to be kept manageable, and whilst unfortunate, I don't think I've seen anyone else complain about it - they all seem to grasp the situation, why don't you?


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travelling performer? wrote:

Mind Candy doesnt care about the other players, only the ones who discuss things online and are SEEN. It doesnt care about the ones who work in msn groups and friends who play in their own houses.


Surely if these other groups are emailing Kurt Scarlet Violet, Sister April, responding to Mind Candy's requests for help then Mind Candy will know about them. Where have Mind Candy been biased against other players? Please specify.

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And seeing as mindcandy drink with you all in a pub, its OBVIOUS that you guys are all safe. All the regulars who make themselves known and email a lot and stuff will be there, trust me.


I'm sure Mind Candy would love to sit in the pub and have a drink with all their players and these drinking sessions, happen during / after events that are open to ALL players not just Unfiction players.

Although I'm sure Mind Candy do have a look at these forums to see what is happening and what ideas we have reached they do provide their own forums and are no way linked to the unfiction boards.

I'm sure if you emailed someone at Mind Candy with your concerns they would be more than willing to ease your worries about the selection of players for the live event. As Juxta points out they all seem to be generally lovely people and would not lik eto see any of their players upset in anyway.

And even if you don't get picked to be involved at the London event, why don't you venture down to the old smoke and join the rest of us who may or may not be chosen who are making the journey. We can all sit down in a pub somewhere and have a nice pint. I'll be the one wearing a Lietmark.
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to travelling performer, are you mental? seriously...what is your problem? if you claim to be so amazing then tell me why you are so stupid to not see the benefit of UF.

i started playing PXC a couple of weeks after clapham....do you see me crying because some ppl have played longer?....no, in fact i would say that the guys here at UF have been the best ppl i've played anything with....they are intelligent, witty and most of all arent glory seekers.

the very fact we work together as a team makes this game so much more fun....i love the banter, the swapping of ideas and the different knowledge ppl bring to the table.

i for one would hate to do this all on my own and if i am lucky enough to find the cube u can sure as hell bet i'll spend some of the money of a huge party for all the ppl who have helped along the way.

if you wanna do this all by yourself...feel free, we wont stop you.
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i can offer unequivocal imperical evidence of there being no uF preference.

Way back in september of last year, after sylvia salk's husband died, she contacted a fFew people. specifically, we had informed her who monica grand is, and was prepping the two of them fFor a meeting. it was really quite exciting. Sylvia wrote to 3 people directly. someone called eric, someone called becki, and me. which is to say, only one person fFrom uF was contacted, and 2 others who are not here were contacted. Now, mind you, i don't really know who becki and eric are. maybe they are lurkers here or something. but i'm saying, because they are not among the usual suspects -- that is, known uF members -- there is an obvious lack of tilt against uF bias.

As fFar as I know, there have been NO OTHER instances where people may or may not have been chosen to interact with characters, in such a way as to mark uF as preferential.
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sotonrich wrote:
if you wanna do this all by yourself...feel free, we wont stop you.


I would, in fact, encourage you to do so. Partially because I'm drunk (Wahoowa!), but mostly because you've been an ass since the day you first posted here. Seriously, I know it's not in the ARG-community-type spirit to reject someone who's relatively new to the forums, but it's the behavior of people like you that turns people off from this kind of thing. I would like to think that not everyone who knows how to use a computer is a complete anti-social so-and-so, but it's people like you who make me doubt that.

I know I'll probably get chewed out by the other members of this board, but it's something that everyone else is thinking and not saying. Could you be true to your name and continue travelling, travelling performer? As a member of the community, I feel bad to reject someone. But at the same time, you've never really wanted to be a part of this community, so go away.
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angelsk
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angelsk wrote:
Out of curiosity, when was the update released about the signing up for the events?

My internet was down for 5 days, and I only got it back on the 9th which is when I signed up, around midday. But looknig at the forums posts it was out of on the 6th. Which is kind of a let down Sad Especially if they do it by sign up order. But I'm fairly sure it wasn't there earlier, but I can't remember - was just happy to be back online.


Could you guys perhaps stop pandering to this guys ego and answer my question? Thanks Very HappyVery Happy

IE: When were sign-ups first opened?
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