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poeticexplosion
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 		Taking Dio's advice for now. We'll see what happens.

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 		Ok, between "You're missing the forest for the trees" and Murdered talking about looking for double meanings, I think it's clear we're looking too much at the details. What we do now is another question. Sad
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Kelis
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John Peterson wrote:
The picket fence is far from white. Has a bloody battle been here? Perhaps on the planet closest to the sun?



O eoth yhk'ee nthu ir oonh. Ts't tgy uept awrh iasole.


New guess...

Perhaps the picket fence line refers to a simple picket fence cipher for two reasons. First, it is a statement, not a question. Second, the remark that we are missing the forest for the trees makes me think we are looking for hidden meanings when it's in plain view.

[theory] Picket fence the cipher text then vingere each line individually with the answers to the two questions as the keys.[/theory]

I'd do it myself but I don't have access to the usual tools from here and I don't have time to do it manually.
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 		Is this game still running? I love the writing thus far, and I need a new one to play.

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 		It is indeed still running, but we've been stopped by the cypher. Give it a try, perhaps you stand a better chance. Smile
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Kelis wrote:
New guess...

Perhaps the picket fence line refers to a simple picket fence cipher for two reasons. First, it is a statement, not a question. Second, the remark that we are missing the forest for the trees makes me think we are looking for hidden meanings when it's in plain view.

[theory] Picket fence the cipher text then vingere each line individually with the answers to the two questions as the keys.[/theory]

I'd do it myself but I don't have access to the usual tools from here and I don't have time to do it manually.

Just caught up with this, and it's got me intrigued...

So for what it's worth, the 2 lines I get for a picket fence are:

oohhenhionttguparisl

etyketurohstyetwhaoe

I'm guessing that the paris in the first line is a coincidence... Twisted Evil

tried ROT-ing - nothing, obviously in the case of the first line. Vigenere also gives nothing with mercury, stalingrad and iwojima (both popped up at the top of a quick Google for bloodiest battle).

Other useless information that turned up during the last hour or so - Black Picket Fence was a film, there are many films about bloody battles (no kidding Rolling Eyes ), and there are a fair number of films with Mercury in the title. Obviously I didn't go off on any kind of film-related wild goose chase at any point Wink

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 		Is it possible that all three answers are keys?

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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Enciphered using a redfence cipher, with the key mercury (so everyone who thought red for the picket fence was right Wink): "I know you're here to help. It's not that easy though."


So where do we go from here?

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 		And not long after I posted the above, and got an AIM account set up:

Quote:
Conversation with murderedgenius at 2006-01-26 00:01:53 on geeky16uk (aim)
(00:01:53) MurderedGenius: Having fun?
(00:02:00) geeky16uk: oh yes
(00:02:00) MurderedGenius logged in.
(00:02:14) MurderedGenius: Joy. I wouldn't want my delightful little puppets to become upset.
(00:02:23) geeky16uk: I never get upset
(00:02:30) geeky16uk: just frustrated sometimes
(00:02:33) MurderedGenius: Oh, wonderful! That makes it so much easier!
(00:02:43) geeky16uk: you like it easy?
(00:02:47) MurderedGenius: Your friends are lax in their work. You, I see, know what to do.
(00:02:52) geeky16uk: that doesn't sound like what I've heard
(00:02:5Cool geeky16uk: thankyou
(00:03:09) MurderedGenius: Oh? What have you heard about me?
(00:03:13) MurderedGenius: Surely not much.
(00:03:19) geeky16uk: some, but not enough
(00:03:30) geeky16uk: I am - curious
(00:03:44) MurderedGenius: Ask away then.
(00:04:13) geeky16uk: now there's an open ended offer
(00:04:19) MurderedGenius: Isn't it?
(00:04:29) MurderedGenius: I'm serious though. I'll do my best to answer any question.
(00:04:56) geeky16uk: fair enough, but I am only recently involved
(00:05:03) geeky16uk: can I ask about your brother?
(00:05:09) MurderedGenius: Of course.
(00:05:30) geeky16uk: why take it out on him? I know little of the... history behind this
(00:05:55) MurderedGenius: I'm not taking anything out on him. If I am, it's justified.
(00:06:01) geeky16uk: why?
(00:06:09) MurderedGenius: He stole my birthright.
(00:06:19) geeky16uk: what is your birthright?
(00:06:27) MurderedGenius: Imagine a scenario.
(00:06:32) geeky16uk: go ahead...
(00:07:2Cool MurderedGenius: Since you were born, your purpose was to become something great. Your purpose was to become a highly specialized tool. Before you were born, they altered you, changed you, to make you better.
(00:07:40) MurderedGenius: Then, when the time comes, they pick your inferior older brother.
(00:08:05) geeky16uk: how do you know that you were the chosen - that your brother was inferior?
(00:08:17) geeky16uk: (I believe in challenging assumptions)
(00:08:23) MurderedGenius: I was the one with altered genetics. He's whole. Human.
(00:08:30) MurderedGenius: I'm nothing more than a wasted experiment.
(00:08:56) geeky16uk: how do you KNOW this though? - I play devil's advocate here, you understand
(00:09:04) MurderedGenius: Of course.
(00:09:36) MurderedGenius: I've run the DNA tests. His genes match his parents. Mine have traces of something else. Some things are missing, others things are there that shouldn't.
(00:09:43) geeky16uk: OK, understood
(00:09:56) geeky16uk: I will take your for this - for what your word is worth
(00:10:30) geeky16uk: a missing word there, my apologies
(00:10:39) MurderedGenius: A foolish decision, but a healthy one.
(00:11:01) MurderedGenius: You obviously do not share the same opinions as your "associates".
(00:11:06) geeky16uk: note, for what your word is worth - I take what you say at face value, no more
(00:11:1Cool geeky16uk: I will listen, and digest
(00:11:29) geeky16uk: I will not necessarily believe
(00:11:45) geeky16uk: do we understand one another?
(00:12:10) MurderedGenius: Yes, yes of course.
(00:12:13) geeky16uk: good
(00:12:26) geeky16uk: I must go, I will speak to you again


I thought I'd take a different tack - let's see where this goes Wink

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 		I saw MG online, so I jumped at the chance to banter with him:

Alex wrote:

CanemExMachina: I've been hearing a lot about you.
MurderedGenius: Have you now?
CanemExMachina: Oh yes! You seem like a terribly interesting person -- manipulative, but isn't that just the spice of life?
MurderedGenius: Quite so. Tell me, where did you get this screename from?
CanemExMachina: I've been trying to give some friends a hand.
MurderedGenius: Ah. You are one of them.
CanemExMachina: So to speak, so to speak.
CanemExMachina: Are you one of a 'them', or are you the lone wolf you sound like?
MurderedGenius: Lone wolf? Hardly how I would describe myself.
CanemExMachina: Understandable. Rare's the man who would. So what do you prefer? Coyote? Jackal?
MurderedGenius: A hawk.
MurderedGenius: Take it for what you will.
CanemExMachina: A noble creature, the hawk. Keen eyes, keener will. A good way to think of oneself. But are you wild or are you tethered?
MurderedGenius: I am wild when it is more beneficial, and tethered when it is more beneficial.
CanemExMachina: Oh, so! An opportunist. And what kind of opportunity are my friends infringing upon, that you've been so, shall we say, antagonistic?
MurderedGenius: I do not appreciate the recent interference. People take notice of many things.
CanemExMachina: One imagines that that is what people do, noticing the wrong things. Did we invade your playground?
MurderedGenius: Not mine. I don't mind much if you try to stop me.
CanemExMachina: I admit I find that odd, just like the way you've been so oblique about warning us off. Almost like you don't care much at all.
MurderedGenius: It would be a good tactic if I wanted to confuse you.
CanemExMachina: It certainly would. And you already know firsthand how nosy we are.
MurderedGenius: Indeed.
CanemExMachina: Despite the lethal nature of curiosity, I confess it is my one true vice. And what I am curious to know, right now, is if you have ever considered using nosy people to your advantage.
MurderedGenius: Of course. There are things you might find out that I can't.
CanemExMachina: Of course. And of course, if we decide that you are acting against us, we will be understandably unwilling to share our information with you.
MurderedGenius: It isn't that hard to weasel information out of people who think it's all a game.
CanemExMachina: I wouldn't be so sure. You have to give us some credit: we are smart.
MurderedGenius: You are an intelligent bunch.
MurderedGenius: Unfortunately, it's in the wrong places.
CanemExMachina: So then maybe you should be a little more forward.
CanemExMachina: Do you want something from us?
MurderedGenius: Not yet.
CanemExMachina: Like we're going to sit on our hands until you come knocking.
MurderedGenius: Of course.
CanemExMachina: A hivemind is a precious resource. Information is our currency. You might consider what a useful tool that might prove to be.
MurderedGenius: Now, are you trying to make me a good guy?
MurderedGenius: Tsk. Tsk.
MurderedGenius signed off at 6:33:18 PM.


He signed off before I could retort, the jerk. Now if only I could learn to be direct instead of overly metaphorical.

Additionally, holy crap, he's only 15? Wow, okay. We should keep a note of this in case we ever have to make him angry.

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 		NEENERS TO THE SNITCH! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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 		Just sent this to John P:

Quote:
Just as you said to a friend of mine. But this time, look to New Horizons.



Et oayu rn ews'i tl uwca, san omt osf ob tnlauh. Dexis ww sa gusles imi, anwt eu yida lo sot wa. N ompetn ciukinebo earotsyestaiu lt cuanne?

A friend.


The code says:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
"We know it won't be easy, but you are in danger. Allow us to assist you, tell us what we can do. I assume plaintext communication is unsafe?" - same cipher, pluto as the key.


Edit - just got the reply:
Quote:
The coded messages was a test.


I appreciate your help. What do you need to know?

The link gives us the attached image. The cipher was simply a test, presumably to make sure we were able to help, so at least we don't have to worry about ciphering every email to John Wink

Just a thought, but the message from this seems to be similar to the tone of many of our IM conversations - we're being prodded to ask questions. So are we looking for the "right" questions? I confess, I have no idea what the right question(s) might be.

Last of all, can anyone ID the area and route in the pic? *Flynn mumbles something about Google Earth for Linux....
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