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skeptical
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Characters Decoded By File Ext: Carelessly and Silvia Files

I have identified characters A to O by file type. Here is the summary and I will post the transcript for carelessly as well as silivia in the following pages.

Base URL: http://www.theaquapolis.com/urchin/
Username: cassius
Password: urchin

Time Order Extension Type Character
1 mp3.jpg (image) A
2 jpg (image) B
3 wsg.jpg (image) C
4 gif.txt (text) D
5 lhp.rtp (richtxt) E
6 kbp.txt (text) F
7 graffle.jpg (image) G
8 bh.gif (image) H
9 m_u.wav (wav) I
10 txt (text) J
11 goo.jpg (image) K
12 doc.jpg (image) L
13 ypt.txt (text) M
14 qm2.html (html) N
15 mic.swf (flash) O

Time Stamp Summary For Little-boxes.net/stairs/stairs/stairs/silivia*.* files:

Time OrderExtension File Type Character
1, 14, bh.gif 2 image files H
2, 7, kbp.txt 2 text files F
3, 15 doc.gif 2 image files L
4, gif.txt 1 text file D
5, graffle.jpg 1 image file G
6, 16, 22 jpg.txt 3 text files B
8, 17 lhp.txt 2 text files E
9, 18, 23 mic.txt 3 text files O
10, 19 mp3.txt 2 text files A
11, 20, 24 txt 2 text files/1 html file J
12, wsg.jpg 1 image file C
13, 21 ypt.txt 2 text files M

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:06 pm

skeptical
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Carelessly Transcript With Character ID By Letter

A
1. carelessly.mp3.jpg (image)
"Perfect Attendance � Statik"

B
2. carelessly.jpg (image)
"Roll Call � First To The Spot � 1 c

C
3. carelessly.wsg.jpg (image)
"When the wind is southerly and the weather clear�.here I am reporting as ordered sir"

D
4. carelessly.gif.txt (text)
"Whoah! So what's with all the activity on the nodes?
Nice spot. Cozy and clean. Good work."

E
5. carelessly.lhp.rtf (richtext)
"sweet.
guess we'll see if anyone else gets here.
mello, you got it yet?
later."

F
6. carelessly.kbp.txt (text)
"heya heya heya
yeah yeah I got it, this is so cool. hey did you guys see all the craziness that happened here a bit earlier?
the server must've taken a serious whomping, seriously! whomp! ha!
i'm not talking about script kiddies, though. even though the tracebacks on those are really dumb-o. la la
la, pound the server, when really, a bit of finesse and all. right, guys? heh! I so mean that! we're the
best.
yep, so i'm here. is that all? baker's dozen and then some? what what what what.
ok, pizza's here!!"

G
7. carelessly.graffle.jpg
(image) Fire-eater? Or Fire Shooter?

H
8. carelessly.bh.gif
(image) "I can see you" Spiral Graphics

I
9. carelessly.m_u.wav
(wav) "Okay, I'm in now. Count me down, yo."

J
10. carelessly.txt (googlism)
texel is klaar
texel is unique
texel is verfrissend en opwekkend
texel is uitgesloten
texel is gereed
texel is een eiland met voor een ieder wat wils
texel is zeer geliefd van jong tot oud
texel is gevallen
texel is verfrissend en opwekkend texel is unique texel is klaar texel is opgericht op 6 april 1946 texel is
uitgesloten texel is gereed texel is zeer geliefd
texel is about 25 km long and 9 km wide
texel is the largest of the wadden islands in the netherlands
texel is the first and largest of the islands belonging to the west friesian chain in the wadden sea
texel is part of the dutch wadden sea
texel is the biggest barrier island in the wadden sea area
texel is displayed
texel is op zoek naar een nieuwe titelsponsor die deze rol wil overnemen
texel is het mekka voor fietsers
texel is largely extensive sand
texel is a most adaptable breed
texel is the biggest and most populated of the wadden islands
texel is built
texel is beschermd natuurgebied
texel is een populaire bestemming
texel is een jaarlijks terugkerende catamaranrace
texel is a multi
texel is opgericht op 6 april 1946
texel is known
texel is anders
texel is one of the most exciting new breeds to appear in the fancy for some time
texel is not very gregarious means that optimal use can be made of pasture
texel is opgericht in 1982 en kwam voort uit een groep wadvogeltellers die de 2 jaren ervoor elke maand
een telling hadden uitgevoerd
texel is a famous place to watch birds
texel is currently #2 for the 2000 olympic show jumping selection trials
texel is relative to the rest of the texels around it
texel is mainly subject to westerly winds
texel is ca
texel is very nice
texel is toerisme de motor
texel is door zijn ligging aan de noordzee en de wadenzee iets bijzonders
texel is veelzijdig en biedt voor elk wat wils
texel is one of the world's most productive meat breeds of sheep
texel is het merkbaar dat het publiek veel meer op het strand blijft om de wedstrijd te volgen
texel is a few miles off the northwest coast of the netherlands and is the largest and southernmost of the
west frisian islands
texel is beperkt
texel is een bungalowpark dat bij texels belangrijkste badplaats "de koog" ligt
texel is een grote waterzaal geopend
texel is similar to a pixel
texel is a meat
texel is the largest of the wadden islands
texel is the largest wadden island of the dutch mainland
texel is about 25 km long and 4 km wide
texel is zeker nog niet rooskleurig maar ik denk
texel is uw vakantie begonnen en bent u er helemaal uit
texel is er ook veel media
texel island
texel is absoluut de moeite waard
texel is opgericht in 1969 en is een begrip in de nederlandse parachutistenwereld
texel is bij uitstek een fietseiland
texel is 25 km lang en 10 km breed
texel is a sheltie with wavy fur
texel is compared
texel is nu het hele jaar open
texel is used in rendering the scene the material information encoded in that texel is substituted with the
currently computed infrared gray value
texel is the largest wadden island off the dutch mainland
texel is bekend om zijn vogels en schapen
texel is nederlands grootste waddeneiland met een oppervlakte van circa 16
texel is the largest and most populated island
texel is h�t fietseiland bij uitstek
texel is het grootste waddeneiland van nederland met ongeveer 13
texel is a dutch island in the north sea that is famous for its birds
texel is small
texel is een ambtenaar van de gemeente texel aanspreekpunt voor de bewoners van texel
texel is a single
texel is to produce lambs for seasonal markets on the eastern seaboards
texel is it closest to? it
texel is very broken up
texel is the largest of the friesian islands
texel is zoet water een kostbaar goed
texel is an associate of permedia general resource
texel is fitting into the lamb market there really well too
texel is computed from both adjacent texels and smoothly blends between them as the texture index
moves through
texel is voor mij meer dan een mooi eilandje
texel is op het eiland actief sinds 1972
texel is a breed of sheep extremely suitable for grazing any type of grassland
texel is an excellent opportunity to enjoy the beautiful dutch countryside and it even features a scenic
ferry ride
texel is ambitieus maar goed mogelijk
texel is veel groter
texel is one of the west frisian islands
texel is here

K
11. carelessly.goo.jpg
(image) a castle on fire? fireworks?

L
12. carelessly.doc.jpg
(image) "also."

M
13. carelessly.ypt.txt
BUT A GRAVITY'S BORSCH-POO ON STUPID'S KITTIES STOMPS AROUND CAIRO.
DOGMA-LUNCHEON DOES SELL INDULGENCES!
BUT WHEN DO WE WEEP ANTIQUITY?

N
14. carelessly.qm2.html
(html) crossword puzzle
"On The Road Again"

O
15. carelessly.mic.swf
(flash) text messages with audio
"sorry i'm late
sorry i made you wait"
"your clues were annoying
what's with this thing?"
" i'm no poet
but you're no hacker"
"scritchety scratch"

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:07 pm

skeptical
Boot

Joined: 07 Oct 2003
Posts: 38

Silvia Transcript With Character ID By Letter

H
1 (image) silvia.bh.gif
"Whomp" spiral graphic

F
2 (text) silvia2.kbp
those guys are crap for crap! i tell you, it's one thing to be l33+ or whatever, but it's another to be
all stomp stomp stomp raaaar! about it, too. manners are not my best trait, but at least i can hold
a fork and knife!
OPPOSABLE THUMBS, people!!!!
yeah! k, later!

L
3 (image) silvia.doc.gif
Graphic white background
"machine?"

D
4 (text) silvia.gif
Those nodes were nuts!
Pretty wack. Nice patching, btw. Gold star for YOU, now!

G
5 (image) silvia.graffle.jpg
Tarot cards, clouds, moon?

B
6 (text) silvia.jpg
So we saw this flux and burst of activity, and then down to nothing. Well, we saw the echoes,
anyhow.
Definitely not a human footprint. This is a whomp on a huge scale that I am not sure any ordinary
script could pack into such a little amount of access. The whole log is massive and ... well,
unbelievable. Except it happened. You guys saw it, you all saw the spike. I'm surprised this whole
subnet's not toast.
(cont'd.)

F
7 (text) silvia.kbp
whomp! yay, heh, good word!
those logs were ginormous and stuff, i know -- i took a look right before it all went crasholah...
yesssssssss we do have quite a weird thing on our hands, yes sir
it's too bad things went down like they did - some people gots no class, no ass, lots of sass
*shakes head* so, if like, we didn't do this, and the other doofii didn't do it, and wasn't human,
what was it???
that's some crazy energy, there. i wonder, i wonder!

E
8 (text) silvia.lhp
zoiks. it's like some huge robot scuffed its shiny metal feet on the carpeting of the world and then
touched its metal claw to the server.
huh. weird. ok, i'll work on my metaphors.

O
9 (text) silvia.mic
if i could grab my nuts and sing falsetto, i'd croon like all the rest about what a freaking hero you
are. oooooh, caesar! you know the CLASSICS! yer so cool! can i be like you? how many books
do i have to read?
i'll be the guy over here, having FUN.
-scratch

A
10 (text) silvia.mp3
I'll call you.

J
11 (text) silvia.txt
done gone and planted yourself somewhere new, eh?
what's your plan, Stan?
the spike seems to have left everything unscathed. quite odd.

C
12 (image) silvia.wsg.jpg
Graphic of plate of green cucumbers, red tomatoes, yellow vegies?
"plate of tomatoes for malloc
kudos for caesar!
sir, I hail thee!"

M
13 (text) silvia.ypt
ignominious vowel whispers completely, ignominious degeneration stoops awfully, dingy
degeneration sullies uncomfortably, unhoped vein sighs finally, soundless entry sucks irritably,
gray light whispers unholily, ignominious life capitulates dryly, soundless battle-axe overflows
irritably, aggressive concubine languishes sleeplessly, sharp vortex exhales abruptly, uniform
sack capitulates hysterically, perfect party falls undesirably, baleful creationism overflows
uncomfortably, upright entry overflows completely, vibrant corduroy overflows caressingly,
soundless language concocts completely, concrete dream shrieks expectantly, perfect
condescension craves terribly, dark chivalry usurps hypocritically

H
14 (image) silvia2.bh.gif
Graphic of spiral
"I HAVE TINY FEET"

L
15 (image) silvia2.doc.gif
Graphic white background
"SAFE"

B
16 (text) silvia2.jpg
"Speaking of footprints - sorry about the switcheroo with this whole home base thing. I had
thought everything was OK, but it looks like some bigfeet from elsewhere (who invited them?
man!) decided to take the ball and run with it. Mom always said not to play ball in the house, and
well, stuff got broken.
I cleaned and wiped as much as I could (saving the node spike stuff for myself, of course), and
then broke it even more. I had to; the oafs were stumbling all over the place, tripping alarms and
making a huge mess. Way to be a ballerina, Gerry Fleck. Of course, _'s got some medium-level
guys, and so I hung out until they could see my present to them. I pointed at the hole, tattled on
bigfoot, and left a leetle wiggle room after I gave them the fixes. So that's why we're here now."

E
17 (text) silvia2.lhp
"i would shake my fist in indignation, but as long as it's peaceful around here, i'm good. hrmph."

O
18 (text) silvia2.mic
"it takes a nerd to know one, dorko.
god, you're so smug! like anyone caused any real harm. why are you so worried about this
precious network anyhow? if you wanna tiptoe through life, that's fine, but I don't have time for
this. let me know if you EVER get a clue or an idea of how the world works."

A
19 (text) silvia2.mp3
"Three cheers for caesar!
hip hip
hip hip
hip hip
hooray!"

J
20 (text) silvia2.txt
"thanks for helping with the cleanup!"

M
21 (text) silvia2.ypt
"She drearily sings to the intense spoon
Because the quills cut before the foolish shoes.
Where does a man slide so quickly and brightly?
How are the houses?
The paper comes darkly through the clever sharks.
A hill falls."

B
22 (text) silvia3.jpg
"Why the hostility? Are you mad I got here first? That it wasn't like last time, where you got fried
and nearly got us all pinned to the wall? What's the deal?"

O
23 (text) silvia3.mic
"look, i'll play your game because i like the pipe this place is sitting on. but i'll skip the rallies and
ticker tape. these pansy-ass passcodes have GOT to go. we're off the grid anyway - NO ONE
WOULDA GOT FRIED. misrepresenting me is not cool, man. i bet that spike was just a bad
thunderstorm in redland, i bet. smug ass!"

J
24 (text) silvia3.txt
"boys, boys, you're both pretty. keep it quiet, scratch, OK? omni was right - the layout here
indicates more than just some thunderstorm or something. i think it'll be really interesting to keep
an eye on this place."

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:09 pm

skeptical
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Post deleted

Post deleted due to IRC2 debunking.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:14 pm
Last edited by skeptical on Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:28 pm; edited 1 time in total

chacko
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Joined: 12 Oct 2003
Posts: 74
Location: Windsor, CO

could texel refer to the buildings blocks of the matrix? like in 3d programming we use vertices to form triangles to apply textures to? Smile

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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:38 pm

cs
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Joined: 08 Oct 2003
Posts: 9

i still say that omni is the graffle extension. he(she) is g

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:59 pm

skeptical
Boot

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Character ID Correlation Notes

Here is a table I put together showing the similarities beween character postings in both carelessly and silivia locations.

Letter is Character ID, File Extension Is Next, Carelessly Post #, Siliva Post #, then Correlation Notes Between The Posts

A: mp3.jpg, 1, 10,19 Not Caesar
B: jpg, 21, 6,16,22 May be Caesar, Leadership
C: wsg.jpg 3, 12 Uses "Sir" and small graphic in both
D: gif.txt 4, 4 Uses "Nodes" in both
E: lhp.rtp 5, 8,17 Similar use of language, short?
F: kbp.txt 6, 2,7 Talks about logs and server activity in all
G: graffle.jpg 7, 5 No text, trippy graphics in all
H: bh.gif 8, 1,14 Text overlay spiral graphics in all
I: m_u.wav 9, None Didn't show in silvia, Only audio file
J: txt 10, 11,20,24 May be Texel, Googlism
K: goo.jpg 11, None Didn't show in silvia, No text, graphic
L: doc.jpg 12, 3,15 One word over white graphic in all
M: ypt.txt 13 13,21 Uses weird poetic language in all
N: qm2.html 14, None Crossword Puzzle?
O: mic.swf 15, 9,18,23 Uses "scratch" in 2 files

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:25 pm

skeptical
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Joined: 07 Oct 2003
Posts: 38

Need To Now Correlate To Names On Web Sites In Game

So, with that in mind, how the hell do we decode A to O as actual names shown on the various web sites.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:27 pm

chacko
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Joined: 12 Oct 2003
Posts: 74
Location: Windsor, CO

yeah i'm terribly confused as to whats going on Sad

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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:42 pm

xnbomb
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Joined: 13 Oct 2003
Posts: 660
Location: J302B S8JDC

Seeing the bigger picture

Skeptical, I'm following your line of reasoning. I'm surprised this thread hasn't gotten more attention ... as I've been pondering the silvia files lately, the following thoughts have occurred to me:

1. We need to try to identify who said what to make any sense of the 'conversation' taking place in the carelessly and silvia sequences

2. In doing so, it may become easier for us to interpret the particular messages that seem cryptic ... context is often very helpful.

3. Now that he have two such sequences of files (conversations), our odds of figuring this out have improved tremendously.

I appreciate what you've done in the thread so far. One suggestion is that we need to number the carelessly files and silvia files differently so that we can distinguish one from the other. So perhaps the 7th silvia file should be S7, and the 7th carelessly file C7 so we can tell them apart in your compendium above. If you like the idea, you could edit your post above (Character ID Correlation) and add the Cs and Ss.

Another aid that can really help with this is by putting all the files together in a way that allows them to be browsed easily and in the context of the conversation. Yanka did a very nice job of this for the silvia files using a .doc. I've replicated what he did for the carelessly files (thanks to BriEnigma for the timestamp order and providing a convenient place to get the files), and have attached both to this post (using my proposed numbering system).

carelesslyfiles.doc
Description	Word .doc containing content from carelessly files (thanks to BriEnigma)	Download
Filename	carelesslyfiles.doc
Filesize	262KB
Downloaded	167 Time(s)

silviafiles.doc
Description	Word .doc containing content from silvia files (adapted from Yanka)	Download
Filename	silviafiles.doc
Filesize	119.5KB
Downloaded	140 Time(s)

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 4:17 pm
Last edited by xnbomb on Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:32 pm; edited 1 time in total

xnbomb
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Some notes thusfar

Following what Skeptical had so far, with my ideas tacked on:

(C1 means carelessly file #1, S1 means silvia file #1, etc.)

A: mp3.jpg (and mp3.txt), C1, S10, S19 {calls himself Statik}
B: jpg, C2, S6, S16, S22 {S16 suggests this person is responsible for where conversation occurs ... posting the images at paintover?}
C: wsg.jpg C3, S12 {anyone else reference Hamlet anywhere ... in an IRC chat I think, tomatoes spelling suggests not American?}
D: gif.txt C4, S4 {gold star remark related to congratulations image?}
E: lhp.rtp C5, S8, S17 {expecting mello to arrive}
F: kbp.txt C6, S2, S7 {responds to Mello ... mlo?}
G: graffle.jpg C7, S5 {who would put together such an elaborate image for use in conversation?}
H: bh.gif C8, S1, S14 {Is this the labyrinth AI?}
I: m_u.wav C9, {no meaningful info other than counting self present}
J: txt C10, S11, S20, S24 {calls himself texel, refers to omni recognizing the phenomena is beyond a thunderstorm ... persons B, E, and F remark to that effect: one of them is omni}
K: goo.jpg C11, {fireworks in image suggest celebration?}
L: doc.jpg C12, S3, S15 {certainly a minimalist ... 3 words as images}
M: ypt.txt C13, S13, S21 {extremely cryptic, although I think S13 has potential due to structure}
N: qm2.html C14,{Strikes me as a message, latter part 'I am well, lots of happiness' ... Avery?}
O: mic.swf C15, S9, S18, S23 {calls himself Scratch}

Some more general ideas:

I guess we can take it that this group of folks will 'meet' on a weekly basis late Saturday/early Sunday to have this sort of conversation at a server location specified using information hidden in an image at paintover.

The first meeting which produced the carelessly files really didn't talk about much ... perhaps it was just a trial run to see if they could successfully get together in that way so that in future they could use this as a means to communicate (over long distances? secretly?).

The second meeting which produces the sylvia files was more substantive insofar as it talks about an event, the whomp/spike. S16 apologizes for having to move the location of the meeting ... which was more or less specified in the Oct. 11 paintover image. That stegged message from one of the Oct. 9 paintover images is at least a vague reference to where the silvia files would be found, but was not really enough to find them.

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:19 pm

aegir
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Re: Some notes thusfar

This is what I got:

A: mp3 - statik (think we all agree on that)
B: jpg - caesar, he found the first ftp site (and gave the clues), he responds to scratch
C: wsg
D: gif
E: lhp
F: kbp - melloc, mello being a nickname
G: graffle - I like the argument that this is omni (from the prog, OMNI graffle)
H: bh
I: m_u
J: txt - texel (definetly)
K: goo
L: doc - i dunno, but I find it interesting that the person using the WORD extension uses PICTURES of WORDS - only
M: ypt - interesting to note that this extension is from the program Cryptic, a document encoder/decoder
N: qm2
O: mic - Scratch

I dunno, i'm generally going on these assumptions right now.. they seem to work with the info given. Also, it should be noted that the extensions themselves may have meanings. Here's the wierder ones:

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:32 pm

xnbomb
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Re: Some notes thusfar

aegir wrote:

This is what I got:
F: kbp - melloc, mello being a nickname

That I like a lot ... I was contemplating malloc ... memory allocation in C ... but I like mlo=mello=malloc even better.

aegir wrote:

G: graffle - I like the argument that this is omni (from the prog, OMNI graffle)

If true, this has an interesting implication: In S24, texel remarks that "omni was right - the layout here indicates more than just some thunderstorm or something". What that tells me is that texel could look at the silvia.graffle.jpg image and see that omni was communicating that something profound was taking place. I've spent a fair bit of time trying to understand the tarot spread ... maybe texel has done it for us!

aegir wrote:

M: ypt - interesting to note that this extension is from the program Cryptic, a document encoder/decoder

Neat, so the file extension is acknowledging that the messages are cryptic in the extreme Surprised

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:51 pm

xnbomb
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Omni Graffle?

aegir wrote:

G: graffle - I like the argument that this is omni (from the prog, OMNI graffle)

One tricky thing about omni being the author of the graffle images: Only 2 minutes and 10 seconds elapse between when the graffle image is posted and when texel writes that last message (based on the timestamps, assuming the time the files were uploaded is when the 'conversation' occurred).

That means that texel can look at that image and determine omni's meaning very quickly. That would certainly support the notions I've been reading on the silvia files thread about not overinterpretting the graffle image. But then the question is: How can texel glance at that image and know that it communicates that a signficant event, beyond a simple lightning-strike produced power surge, has occurred in omni's opinion?

Either texel is remarkably familar with the Crowley deck and has exceptional eyes (for identifying the cards in no time at all), or the meaning of the image is a lot more obvious and has less to do with the specific cards and their position in the spread.

I don't think that this information in any way limits the idea that omni creates the graffle images. But it does constrain the way in which the silvia graffle can be interpretted, which is probably a positive thing Smile

All we need to do now is figure out what texel can see in there. Then we'd have some mutually supporting evidence that omni is graffle and for how to read the tarot spread 3-moon image.

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:56 pm

levendus
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Re: Omni Graffle?

Quote:

Either texel is remarkably familar with the Crowley deck and has exceptional eyes (for identifying the cards in no time at all), or the meaning of the image is a lot more obvious and has less to do with the specific cards and their position in the spread.

My thoughts exactly. None of the clues have required that much esoteric knowledge.

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:02 pm

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