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[zaeil]

I have to ask this, because I've seen it quite a few times this week: Where has it been said that V definitely works at the Academy? As I recall, this was just spec, not hard fact.

The only information we ever got about V's life outside of 3P was from the Groupware Manager:

[European Chris]

Re Garnet: Is it possible the spec has been influenced as the only pic we have of him is one where he's holding a newspaper.

[Mikeyj]

And one of his arms is fake

I think you're right Zaeil, it made me think of Cymbalisty a bit (with Violet's constant talk of his skin-crawling sleaziness), but then, that's too obvious a kink. Who's to say that it's especially kinky on Earth anyway? I've always thought philately was an odd pecadillo.

[Juxta]

[WolverineFan]

[BrianEnigma]

[Centipede]

[noodrez]

I'm going off on pure conjecture here, but at the moment, we seem to be finding out about the third power too easily. This is an organisation that is meant to have kept itself hidden fairly well for a few hundred years. Yes they have made overt moves now, but it still seems a bit too much that they are now suddenly so bad with their security.

What my mind is starting to think is that we might be wittnessing a power struggle within the third power. The cube was stolen before V's group got there. We are thinking that they were a deception, however what if the third power had split into factions, and they both were trying to get their hands on the cube? One of them has, giving them the upper hand, and now a lot of third power operatives are being exposed. It seems like the group that stole the cube are setting the others up to take a fall for them.

[locqust]

An idealogical split? Could be, I mean you are right, well over a hundred years of staying in the shadows and now we know names of operatives, got some killed (!) etc.

Taking this further, maybe it isn't a split in the group but 1 group mentioned by Violet playing the 3P and therefore playing us???

I do hate the fact we are being played but as this seems to be one of the only ways of us pushing the mystery forward, I'm quite happy to let it go on, as long as we start bearing in mind that the 3P probs know exactly what, where and when we do or find out stuff. As long as we keep that in mind we shouldn't be played so easily.
"An ambush only works as long as the ambushees don't realise what it is"

[Belogroak]

Someone alluded to this earlier, but thought I would add a post on it.

Track #3 implies a Track #1 and a Track #2.

My interpretation of this is V recorded his previous two murders as well.

Now if we can located track #1......



Bel

[European Chris]

Who though...Salk...Mendling....Holyoke if there is more?

[tally]

Well it would make sense, given the wordplay of "My Greatest Hits"... as in, the people I killed I am most proud of.

Ack.

[perplexed]

The only two people to have left Hesh are Cyrus and some other production guy, anyone think maybe it was fixed so that cyrus had that file on his space and it would throw the heat off the other guy who left. Also, if we assume there is someone else working at Hesh in the 3P anyone think that the guy who gave us the password to the Hesh File Server is 3P?

[Mokey Fraggle]

Interesting points from Noodrez and Locqust about different 3P factions and an ideological split, specifically evidenced by the fact that the Cube was stolen before at least some of the thieves got there.

I've always been confused about why the 3P would want so badly to play us. Why do they want to follow our movements, find out how much we know, observe us, etc?

[spec]
What if we're being played by the 3P because they really never got the Cube? Only the high-ups in the movement know it, perhaps. Maybe the lower minions believe they are in possession of it. This keeps them confident and loyal. The 3P leaders need the Cube, so they're following us around as we search for it, and we're essentially working together without knowing it just because the 3P wants to get their hands on it?
[/spec]

Doesn't really deal with the recording, just a thought that popped into my muddled mind.

Re: the recording, I still don't trust Helena. As I recall, we were already looking at her funny before the Viard message came out. If the message is pointing us in the direction of a bad guy (Helena), then whoever planted the message is at least possibly a good guy. I think I'm going to join those of us who believe Cyrus was leaving helpful evidence for us to follow because he disagreed with the mission or something.

But, /sigh the Quint = V thing is so convenient... Oh, I can't decide. I just don't feel comfortable with Helena at all.

Everyone had better be good to Kurt, that's all I have to say.

[WolverineFan]