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[WIBS] [NEW] 2/2 Update: What are we getting right/wrong?
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 		[WIBS] [NEW] 2/2 Update: What are we getting right/wrong?
I'm putting this discussion here because while it's not a META discussion, it does have META elements.

Tucker directly addresses some of the puzzles and speculation we've been working on in his latest blog post, and I think, since he's an IG character, we should pay attention to what he says. Granted, Tucker the character may not know anything more than we do, but Tucker the puppet may be giving us nudges.

It is noteworthy, however, that Tucker spends very little time talking about Benjamin Stove, devoting the majority of the post to his situation at work and a description of the estate sale that doesn't really seem to have any information in it.

The geography/quipas puzzle feels like we may be stumped. Tucker links to a number of threads trying to solve this puzzle, but doesn't include any commentary on them. Maybe it's just that we already got all the info we're going to get this week earlier, with the note in the book; maybe it means that we're on the right track and they're waiting for us to get it. I think that if we weren't on the right track, they would have given us a nudge. The paragraph in which he talks about it seems more designed to help newcomers catch up with our train of thought than it does to give us any sort of nudge.

I started a thread on the corn spirits mentioned in Ben's letters, noting vaguely that in the majority of the references, he equated himself with the mythical figures. Tipsila elaborated.

Tucker seemed to pounce on that.

Tucker wrote:
Some stunningly cohesive connections being made here, Phaedra and tipsila. Reading some of Ben's letters, I get a strange sense of egotism on his part, I wonder if he somehow thought he was one of these mythical figures himself.


In his blog post today, he draws our attention to it again:

Tucker wrote:
Benjamin is a human being, with all of the myriad ups and downs that that moniker implies. Did Benjamin, who at one point declares himself "too smart for this," really have the ego to fancy himself a modern day "god of the harvest," like Dayohogwenda or Homshuk, a savior to his people? Or was this seemingly mythic self-aggrandizement just a mask worn by a scared, lonely farm boy who was trying to make good on a promise to his family, a promise ultimately crushed by waves of alienation and adversity?


That seems like either a nudge that there's something more there that we're not seeing, or a confirmation that we're right about that direction of speculation. Although I'm not sure, practically speaking, what that means, since I don't know where we can take it without more info.

But in any case, I think we're supposed to do more with the geography/quipas puzzle.

Thoughts about what we were supposed to take away from the blog post, anyone?
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 		I agree that we should be paying attention to Tucker's intuition. Afterall, he does know more than we do.

Debunkette's position may be a bit more predictable, given her website, but she goes out of her way to point out the irrelevance of crop circles. (as opposed to the other far flung theories on the WIBS forums)
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Well, the folks at the Who Is Benjamin Stove forum showed me just what smart mobs are capable of doing. Once they dropped their distraction on all things crop circle and alien related, they were able to...

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 		Talking about speculation...
http://forums.whoisbenjaminstove.com/index.php?showtopic=167#
http://forums.whoisbenjaminstove.com/index.php?showtopic=195&st=120#

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 		I've been stumped by the geography/quipas puzzle for awhile now. I keep waffling between the diagram being geographical (map overlayment), a puzzle solve (simliar to the puzzle sovle here), a diagram relating special angles or instances (at Machu Picchu or the Native American mounds), or something completely different!!

There must be more to it, but as far as I can tell, Tucker isn't "nudging" too much regarding the note from the Seattle library.

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goldy
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 		good call sidtheduck, I have been slipping into "well we got them all so far , what's next" mindset, but we really haven't gotten anything from the seattle note. (except of course, it points us to Machu pichu).
The best geo-overlay I've seen is the Piri Reis map one

http://forums.whoisbenjaminstove.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=153

I am at a bit of a loss where to go next. I have a feeling the next batch of letters won't arrive until after someone gets to the Detroit library and finds..(insert object of choice here) I am still enjoying the ride, thats all that matters for the moment!

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 		My best guess lately is that the first note is the first part of a bigger puzzle. Find more notes, get more pieces. And the diagram in the Seattle note is thus far incomplete with no way to solve until we have more info from the other notes.

But maybe I just tell myself that so I'll quite messing with it when I should be working.

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Lovek wrote:
My best guess lately is that the first note is the first part of a bigger puzzle. Find more notes, get more pieces. And the diagram in the Seattle note is thus far incomplete with no way to solve until we have more info from the other notes.

But maybe I just tell myself that so I'll quite messing with it when I should be working.


I like that explanation, if for no other reason than it lets me drive by my local gas station without thinking "If pump 3 is the center of the quipu diagram, and I rotate it so that the main arms point to the dumpster and the Mountain Dew bottle in the parking lot, and then I extend the third arm out to Easter Island in the South Pacific..."

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