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 		I've been unable to find anything in the WHOMP and LITTLE FEET images. It seems that there is something hidden here, since the file sizes are so large. They are also greyscale images, but have a color palette.

Anyone have any ideas? Perhaps they contain a log file of the node activity?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:37 am
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Pierre wrote:
One a side note.. could someone with a good photo editing program take a look at the scribbles on the bottom right corner of the Paranormal Researck Journal logo, on the reight bottom corner of the index page?


I think this was already covered here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2671&highlight=magazine

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 		Possible ID for Card 03 (in Thoth spread) - Wheel of Fortune
Let me preface this by writing that I don't consider myself an expert on Tarot. However, based on what we can see in the graffle image, I think it's reasonable to think that it is a 15-card Thoth spread. From http://www.tryskelion.com/thothsprd.htm the layout looks like

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13 09 05    04 08 12
      02 01 03
14 10 06    07 11 15


(Pardon my leading zeros in the single digit cases ... helping me with the spacing)

I think we've already got the following:

05 - Queen of Cups
02 - Devil
01 - Nine of Wands
04 - Prince of Swords

The other 'important' card in this spread would be 03, next to the central card, and obscured by the 3-moon. After browsing through the images at http://www.tryskelion.com/ (first time I've really wanted my own Crowley deck instead of the Spanish economy model I do have), I think 03 is the Wheel of Fortune.

I'll submit the following as evidence.





For the first image, I took the graffle image, cropped around the card and monkeyed with the contrast to bring the 'golden' parts of the card image up a little. For the second image, I've borrowed the Wheel of Fortune from the aforementioned site and tried to get the perspective to be similar. I'm pretty sure this is the card.

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Interesting you mention Solomon: he built his temple based on the design of a labyrinth.


That was my reasoning. I did see a couple of your other posts ( in other threads) in which you also made the temple/labyrinth comparison, so it's encouraging to know others are also pursuing this line of thought.


Edit: Not the Phaistos Disc specifically, but temples and labyrinths in general, just to clarify.

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 		Next To the 3
Could the "Crater" next to the 3 be a zero? 30?

I did a search for 30 and Moon and got a lot of stuff, but this popped out at me.

Chapter 30 - Sun, Moon and Stars
http://www.swedenborgdigitallibrary.org/LP/lp30.htm

It is a stretch.
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 		That might be usefull :
Card 1

The Nine of Wands
The Lord of Great Strength

Numerical Value: 9

Card 2

The Devil (Le Diable)
The Lord of the Gates of Matter; The Child of the Forces of Time

Card Number: 15
Key Number: 26
Rulership: Capricorn
Hebrew Letter: Ayin
Translation: Eye
Numerical Value: 12

Card 3

Wheel of Fortune (La Roue de Fortune)
The Lord of the Forces of Life

Card Number: 10
Key Number: 21
Rulership: Jupiter
Hebrew Letter: Kaph
Translation: Hand
Numerical Value: 9

And that's for the interpretation of them on the thoth spread.

Card 1: Represents the client and the nature of the question. It also represents the primary influences upon the situation.

A court card in this position refers to a dominant individual, influence, or personality trait affecting the situation.
Cards 2 and 3: Read this combination with reference to Card 1. All three cards are keys to describing the nature of the situation and the personality of the individual.

But there is a little problem... did it was intentionnaly reversed or they draw the card like that? The card that are reversed mean something else then the one upright....

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 		Card 08 - The Priestess?
This is a little harder to see than the last one I posted ... there will be more squinting involved ...

By really bringing up the contrast, you can get a very faint pattern on Card 08 ... light blue figure on a dark blue background. It looks to me like the Priestess, particularly the head and the outstretched arms:





The other cards are even harder to see. I suspect card 06 might be the Three of Cups, but I'm not sure. Card 11 looks identifiable from some visible pattern present, but no luck so far. Cards 07, 12, and 15 might be impossible to identify ... there's just not enough pattern visible, contrast-stretched or not.

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Pierre wrote:
It's a good conjectre, though I still believe that Labirynth is the program being developed for the Aquapolis, though after the "accident" at the construction site, I'm led to believe that the Aquapolis' program is already working there...

I believe that the pourpose of that program is indicated by its name... In all the myths the Labirynth is used to trap people, to isolate them from the outer world.



Connections between seemingly isolated events would have a labirynthine appearance also. Visualize a data tree and imagine following the different paths. Hell this whole AGR is one big virtual Labirynth.

My main point in bringing this up was to keep the possibilities of Labirynth's nature open.

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 		Assigning values and hebrew letters to cards
... (addressing the entity with that name) that's good work, although it raises some questions for me:

The values you've provided differ from those on Lady Shyra's site that I've referenced a few times. The reason this is significant is because the Crowley deck orders major arcana by numbering them with a roman numeral. However, beyond that, no hebrew letter or other numerical value appears on the cards themselves (also ... no astrological symbol, a feature on some other decks). So, with the Crowley deck numerical values and hebrew letters are a matter of interpretation, that obviously varies (what was your source BTW?).

The most straightforward way that numerical values and hebrew letters can be assigned to major arcana is to use the numerical value equal to the roman numeral (at least up to 10, then many give other larger values), and to assign hebrew letters sequentially using the hebrew alphabet. Note that this scheme does not fully agree with Lady Shyra's ... she gives the Fool aleph, which offsets her hebrew letters by one.

There's no definitive answer here. I just point it out because the Priestess is card II in the major arcana, receiving numerical value 2, and hebrew letter *beth* ... take from that what you will Very Happy I would also usually call the Wheel of Fortune card X with value 10 and letter yod. The Devil is trickier (ha), card XV, with value 15 or 60, and letter samech (first letter of Satan when written in hebrew).

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 		Well, i took this site to get the information. http://www.paranormality.com/tarot_meanings.shtml

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 		Re: Possible ID for Card 03 (in Thoth spread) - Wheel of For
xnbomb wrote:
Let me preface this by writing that I don't consider myself an expert on Tarot. However, based on what we can see in the graffle image, I think it's reasonable to think that it is a 15-card Thoth spread. From http://www.tryskelion.com/thothsprd.htm the layout looks like

Code:

13 09 05    04 08 12
      02 01 03
14 10 06    07 11 15


(Pardon my leading zeros in the single digit cases ... helping me with the spacing)

I think we've already got the following:

05 - Queen of Cups
02 - Devil
01 - Nine of Wands
04 - Prince of Swords




What if the "3" in the moon signifies that only 3 of the cards are significant?
Most of the visual clues have been relatively uncomplicated. When I was looking at the cards the three that were the easiest to distinguish were 05, 02, and 04. Maybe they refer to the three characters- Prince of Swords:Ceasar, Devil:scratch, Queen of cups: ? (but the third does seem feminine).

I followed the link to the info about the Thoth spread and it said

Quote:
Princes and Queens often indicate actual men and women connected with the matter.


Perhaps its an invitation to go somewhere else.

I don't know...... just some food for thought.

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 		a three in the moon/planet
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Well, i took this site to get the information. http://www.paranormality.com/tarot_meanings.shtml



Does the crater in the moon show a 3, or sideways m

Anyone noticed this already?

Moatie

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Moatie wrote:
Anyone noticed this already?


Erh, yes, about halfway through this thread Smile

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 		I guess you're right Guest... We must keep our minds open...

On the tarot subject, The Prince might indicate Steve Walsh and the Queen may be either Beth or some other woman at Metacortex. The Devil indicates an aspect of the person inquiring, so we get the info that he(she) is a materialist person. Concerning The nine of wands, it represents power, doesn't it?

My (wild) guess is that this picture refers to Ormond. Maybe a clue to his password (more a wishful thought than a guess, huh?). Could it concern the moon? And things with the number 3, or 13... What's the motto on the Apollo 3 patch? Perhaps the clue is there...

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 		So okay, we get what the story is for those cards we can see, insofar as individual cards go (and BTW, kudos to everyone who has kicked this topic on so far in the last 18hours).

But do we have anyone with knowledge of what those cards mean in context of the spread they are cast in? Any mystic palm readers here?

... the only palm I've every read is my email on my Tungsten|T... Wink

and BTW, has anyone tried a simple find edges in Photoshop? that might clear up what card is hidden behind the moon, assuming it's the whole image has been built up over various layers...
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