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Nuleren
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Ok, so I took the first video and after a good bit of wracking my brain I decided to just throw the video into a video editor so that I could see exactly how long the light is on at each instance, and the length of time in between each flash. These are the times (in seconds) I got:

Quote:
1.12 off
1.04 on
1.04 off
3.03 on
1.85 off
2.09 on
8.05 off
3.79 on
1.25 off
3.01 on
2.92 off
1.00 on
1.09 off
1.79 on
1.00 off
2.97 on
1.21 off
1.01 on
1.81 off
0.97 on
5.13 off
3.01 on
1.09 off
1.85 on
the rest off


Unfortunately I still couldn't make much out of it...
I came up with:
. - / - /
- - / . . - . / . /
-.
At mfe n

Which doesnt make much sense to me except for the "at"

If I have time tomorrow, I'll split up the other videos in the same manner.

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Thanks for that Nuleran, would really appreciate if you could manage the rest. Will have a tinker with what you transcribed, and let you know. Going to see my nana, and she knows morse, which is a help when I'm not sure!!!


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OK, I've taken a leaf from Nuleren's book and chopped up video 1 in Premiere to create a visual representation of the timings.



The top line is when the light on, the bottom line is when it's off. So, the top line is our dots and dashes. Unfortunately it does appear to be gibberish. The first letter is a promising W, but the rest doesn't match, although it could be that the W was the end of a word, the next could then start with an M, but then there's what looks like a 5 bit sequence which doesn't match anything. It's quite close to the morse for a question mark, though.

I'll try and do the same with the other videos.

(Excuse the crappy, crappy jpg, but since there's no detail needed I thought I'd squish it as much as I could.)

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Here's video 3:



The bit after the marker (little grey 0 at the top) I'm relly unsure about. At first I thought there was nothing there, but then I decided that there were lights, it was just that they were really faint. For those it was really hard to tell whether the light was going on and off, or just twinkling slightly due to shaky hands and distance. Then the camera started moving and I couldnt make any lights out after that.

The spacings seem to be even more ambiguous on this one, though, I wouldn't feel confident about grouping any of these. Still at least there seems to be a clear difference between dots and dashes.

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For what it's worth, that 5-bit sequence in Video 1 is interpreted as è by this translator: http://www.qbit.it/lab/demorse.php

Something tells me you folks weren't being morsed in French, though. Laughing

Since I wasn't there, I've got to ask: is there any possibility that this was just some random OOG coincidence? I've been assuming that you all were told to expect some sort of message, but just wanted to be sure.

Regardless, breaking up the video in that way is very helpful for those of us who weren't there, Psyche.
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joePM wrote:

Since I wasn't there, I've got to ask: is there any possibility that this was just some random OOG coincidence? I've been assuming that you all were told to expect some sort of message, but just wanted to be sure.


Not a chance, the director of play of Mind Candy gave us torches. When we are given something it tends to be metaphorically lit up, this time it really was.

The morse code is a banana-it really is morse code.
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Regardless, breaking up the video in that way is very helpful for those of us who weren't there, Psyche.

I wasn't there either, actually, but either way I'm glad it's useful.

I've been trying to do video 2, but I'm finding it pretty much impossible to tell the difference between the light going on and off and the light just twinkling due to shaky hands and distance - as people have said before, the morse on that side of the bridge seems to be an awful lot faster than the other, plus the light's much fainter. I'll keep working on it though.

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OK, so the work for today:

By combining what Nuleran, Psyche have done and watching the videos I get the following:

For the first Video:

Quote:
.- / - / -- / .. / -.. / -. /


There is a significant pause between the second and third "letters" (8.05sec) so I figure a word end maybe?

So how about:

Quote:
A / T / M / I / D / N /


At midnight?

And for the third video I get

Quote:
.- / -- / . / . / - / ..- /


From Psyches visual and watching the video. I get this to mean:

Quote:
A / M / E / E / T / U /


Someone whose name ends with A meeting U(you)? possibly at midnight?

Will keep going, and try to get a bit further, but as always feel free to pick faults. Smile


Don

EDIT: Ok, I just realised that the two bits are the same!!!! So one or the other then. (Written too many archaeology notes, and brain is numb!!)
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donstobbart wrote:
At midnight?

Good work! There is a long gap (about 20s) after the N, but maybe it's abbreviated?

donstobbart wrote:
Someone whose name ends with A meeting U(you)? possibly at midnight?

I think there's definitely a dot at the end of that though, just as I moved the camera slightly up, and just before the rapid camera movement (sorry about that, had to shift in the pod to retain sight of the bridge as we moved!) - making either F, or maybe ER or IN or UE. MEETING? But there's only about 5-6 seconds missing there, not enough time for --.

donstobbart wrote:
EDIT: Ok, I just realised that the two bits are the same!!!! So one or the other then. (Written too many archaeology notes, and brain is numb!!)

Different spacing and one extra dash though. And I didn't deliberately start filming either at a gap, so a big coincidence.

Nice work with the visualisation psyche!

Nick

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A few random thoughts as my brain begins to gently simmer in its own juices:

1. If I were trying to transmit a morse message to a recipient who I wasn't sure was prepared to receive it, I'd repeat it, probably two or three times, with long pauses in between. I'm not noticing any repeating patterns from what I'm seeing, but then I wasn't there so I have no idea how much of the message is here.

2. Looking over the challenge sheets and questions from the event, I notice morse popping up in a lot of places, including in the sample text-trivia response (particularly interesting since Inspector Morse's creator is apparently a huge puzzle fan). Made me wonder if this message can be decoded using information from elsewhere in the event.

3. After watching the videos, I've come to the realization that that is the WORST morse transmission I have EVER seen. Laughing

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Here's a pic of the sample text-trivia response joePM's referring to

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85268853@N00/104585990/

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buzman wrote:
Here's a pic of the sample text-trivia response joePM's referring to


I imagine that text was only given to us in morse code to ensure that players would have a 'morse sheet' on them without arousing any suspicion.
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Did anyone else go prepared with sheets on morse code, semaphore, signalling flags and braille, or was that just me? Embarassed Laughing

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Daffydil wrote:
Did anyone else go prepared with sheets on morse code, semaphore, signalling flags and braille, or was that just me? Embarassed Laughing


I didn't think of that, but had equipped Jazz Hands with loads of maps of the area, including the bus routes for rapid transport, and the inside of the National Gallery!!

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Along with a London street map and route planner (including the Underground), I had braille, morse code and signalling flags on my PDA. And a couple of programs for cracking codes & ciphers as well. I love my gadgets Very Happy
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