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[PUZZLE] The SILVIA Files
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Bamba-MAN
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Anonymous wrote:
Fardreamer wrote:
Just thought I'd mention that I'm quite knowledgeable in the Hebrew language so if anyone has a question I'd be glad to answer.


I am from Israel, so I speak Hebrew better then you... BTW, how do you know Hebrew?


That was me! I registered to the site 10 minutes ago!
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 		Going back on track, could the whole picture be just a "look for something on the paranormal journal"sign? something related to tarot?

I tried looking for hidden subdirectories using the old guessing method and it was no good...

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 		I'm sorry if this is irrelevant or has already been noticed. I am new to this ARG and trying hard to catch up with everyone elese.

A few pages back in this thread, there was mention of The Minataur and The Labyrinthe.

There is also mention of both on the Paranormal Journal. I have no ide if this means anything, or if anything else on that site means anything either.

but here it is:

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The Minotaur in Fact and Fiction
J. Terrence Pendt, Julia Harper

This report examines evidence of the existence of a real-life minotaur, a hideously deformed child of King Minos 2. Recently discovered records indicate that Minos ordered the child locked away from sight in an underground chamber. Our hypothesis concludes that the child possibly suffered from elephantiasis and had horn-like growths near both ears, thus leading to the legend of a bull-headed man. A deformed partial skeleton unearthed in a subterranean chamber in Crete, the location of the legendary labyrinth, lends credence to this hypothesis.


http://www.paranormaljournal.org/vol2_4.html#9

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 		Nice find... guest... not sure if it means anything in the greater scheme of things though, unless it debunks our conjecture that the Minotaur is an AI and the labyrinth is a server node for it to live on...

Maybe Beth and Phil/Avery had a deformed love child... Very Happy

Maybe I'm just being silly now. Good work though: history tells us there are no coincidences in this game.
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 		I am "guest" that posted above, and I just registered about 10 minutes ago...

anyways check this image out that this guy just posted...

the image is from cascade vortex, and it does appear to be a head with a horn.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2763

any connection with The Minotaur or Labyrinthe?

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 		Hesitant as I am to discard something without proof either way, I'm not so sure about that... Smile
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 		Paradigm ponted out at #matrix that the clue related to the tarot picture could be "Moon card 3" looking for thet he found this link: http://www.scip.org.uk/moon/cards/robert.htm

On this link I found something refering to a Moon alphabet, for blind people...

I then found the mention to a Moon alphabet for the mlind on that page and looked that up in Google and ended up in this page: http://www.bsblind.co.uk/full/moon/moontype.htm

So.. any comments? Did you see those characters anywhere in the game so far? Could the hacker be blind? Or is he giving us a clue to decode something we didn't think was a text?

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 		If it leads anywhere, your equal in credit for discovering it Pierre.....your appollo search post is what sent me to google to try Moon Card 3.

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 		http://www.bsblind.co.uk/full/moon/wmoon5.htm

More info on Dr William Moon......

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 		Some thoughts on interpretting silvia.graffle.jpg
I've been pondering what to make of silvia.graffle.jpg for a while now. I agree with Levendus that it shouldn't be too hard to figure out ... the question still is, what's the message? Based on what we have from the silvia files 'conversation', assuming that omni is the author the graffle files, texel sees that omni is saying that something significant and unusual just occurred with this image. How does texel see that?

This is a long post. I'm hoping that by sharing the various ideas bouncing around in my head that I might stimulate some useful discussion.

First I want to think a little about what kind of message the graffle image is: Consider the level of effort required to create such an image, and the length of time it would take to do so ... why do it if the message is very simple? And what sort of person would put together such an image to convey a simple message? And could someone create such a message to use inside of a conversation that only lasted 3 minutes?

I've tried to establish what we can see in the image. I think that's gone as far as it go at this point ... I agree there are some things in the foreground of the picture, but I don't think we'll ever really know what they are and if they are signficant. The next task to figure out what the various symbols that we can see mean in this context. So, going from the obvious and simple to the less obvious and more obscure:


The three on the moon is the easiest thing to see, the thing that shouldn't be there so you can't help but notice it. It is over the 03 card in the spread, and that seems unlikely to be a coincidence ... /moon/moon/moon? The third moon ... of what? The third month ... full moon in the third month ... March 15th or so?

After that, there is the spread of cards (as a whole ... a tarot reading as a symbol). The fact that there is a tarot spread on the table is trying to tell us something ... maybe that someone is trying to figure out what's going on ... that someone needs (spiritual?) assistance in understanding the events that are unfolding. The other way to look at it is to reverse the perspective ... since we presume omni is picking the cards that appear in the image, perhaps it's less of a question ('help me understand the situation') and more of an answer ('here's how I see the situation').


(I've edited out specific info on the cards since we now know this image was plucked from the web, which likely means the cards themselves were not chosen deliberately)


Unfortunately, I'm no closer to seeing how texel interpretted this image with such ease, or how we would have interpreted it as he did. That means that I've either gotten nowhere near the gist of it, or the idea that omni is the graffle-guy is wrong.

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 		The tarrot part of the image is a photo found using google image search

tarot glitterback


http://images.google.com/images?q=tarot+glitterbook&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en


The tarot part may not be as deep as thought.....

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Pierre
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 		xnbomb... we think the image was used to point to an alphabet.. the Moon alphabet, that is quoted in a page found on google if you search for moon card 3...

this alphabet is used by blind people... blind was mentioned earlier, wasn't it? on a message from the hackers, I think...

using this alphabet on the paintover.net navigating arrows we get this:

original: <(=: | :=)>

Moon: KC (separation of verse) :I: (separation of verse) DX

the : symbol does not exist in the moon alphabet...

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 		Hmmm... I can only get the thumbnail preview in Google, and that doesn't zoom in too well for me to confirm/deny that they're the same cards as in our piccie... The gear in the background of the shot certainly looks as though its the source of our misery though...

If we've wasted all this effort learning to read tarot... Evil or Very Mad

The PMs must be hysterical by now... curse them, they betrays us! Wink

Nice find though Jammer. Time to focus on the other stuff we know about that picture. Like there's at least one or two other images sublimated in there, and that the combination of them means something fairly immediately obvious once you know the cues.
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 		Things simplify
Nice work culturejammer! I had my suspicions about this ... I'd been using Google's image search looking for fire eaters (carefully.graffle.jpg) ... hadn't moved onto tarot yet Laughing It is definitely the same image ... I've stared at it long enough to recognize it. Very Happy Interestingly the source of an image is from a girl from Chicago who writes an online journal ... and she's taken down all of her stuff from 2002, including the image and any text accompanying it. Even the Wayback Machine doesn't have it Confused

That explains a lot. It means the graffle author just grabbed that original and used it as one layer of the image, not bothering to put it together and chose the specific cards.

The 3-moon seems to be the most obvious thing to focus on, and Pierre's Moon alphabet results look very promising ... KC could be the mysterious Katherine ... DX?

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