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[Guin]

[Jakeo]

[EvilGenius]

What about this?

[Magma]

Re: What about this?

[locqust]

Entropy is effectively the death of heat or where work cannot continue due to lack of energy.

There are 2 types of entropy basically. Magma and Evilgenius are both right lol

[BluesScale]

From Wikipedia:

Entropy is a measure of the amount of energy in a physical system that cannot be used to do work. In simpler terms, it is also a measure of the disorder and randomness present in a system.

Heat is energy in a system that can not be used to do work. So, an increase in entropy is an increase in temperature. Also, things become less ordered at high temperatures.

Hope this helps

Blues

[EvilGenius]

There are, indeed, two ways to talk about entropy. Think of the expanding universe. Without new sources of heat the universe will tend toward increasing disorder (entropy increases) and cool at the same time.
What you say about adding heat encreases entropy only makes sense in a non-closed environment - and I suppose the card heating is an open system from that way of thinking. Entropy as a topic is kinda confusing depending on what perspective one has.

I think I am guilty of trying to make the statement fit the facts as we know them - it was worth shot

[AngusA]

Alternatively, the entropy he is referring to could be information entropy (i.e. caused by shuffling).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_compression/entropy

[Guin]

this entropy thing is really my head up lol

the text message told us the code has everything we need (or words to that effect) - so this could be the message and the deck order. Depending how we use entropy (heat, cold etc) this could be the order or the text at the start or the fact that certain letters dissapear. The text message says if you are feeling cold you are over sensitive (or words to that effect) - is this a hint that it is heat - why would you be overly sensitive if you were cold?

so which form of entropy?.......

What to do now..............

[jamesays?]

Hello everyone,

another newbie joins the fray! I've just finished reading through all the posts here so you'll have to excuse me while I get my breath back.

I'm sure someone must have tried this, but I can't find any reference to it so far:

Starting with the ace of spades on the face of the pack (i.e. you're looking at it), the new deck order for a lot of packs of cards nowadays is

Ace to King of Spades
Ace to King of Diamonds
King to Ace of Clubs
King to Ace of Hearts
then the two Jokers.

If it has already been mentioned....trout away, I guess I'd deserve it.

[doomsdayred]

[doomsdayred]

[bertyb]

On the Bruce Java page it keys the 2 jokers as 53 and 54.

[doomsdayred]

[bertyb]

I will have to go and repeat all the work I did on there then with 2 53's now, rather than 53 and 54........damn card.