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[UPDATE] PXCPD Internal Access - 14 Mar 06 - Cymbalisty File
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tally
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So the Ceretin was in the coffee he drank...I wonder if that's the normal way to take Ceretin? Aren't they pills? If someone wanted to slip him the ceretin, why not in his coffee?
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Guys,

I've attached a leech of Cymbalisty's entire case file

Enjoy.
www.perplexcitypolice.com.zip
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thanks! Smile

Just for posterity here, though:

TOXICOLOOGY REPORT:
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TOXICOLOGY REPORT - SUSPICIOUS DEATH

PUBLIC INQUEST PXC978C675/W/I.

CASE NO. PXC978C675 (CYMBALISTY, ISAAC).

PUTREFIED: NO.

DATE OF INCIDENT: 14/1/269

DATE SAMPLES RECEIVED: 16/1/269

DATE EXAMINED: 16/1/269

LOCATION OF INCIDENT: PXC

SPECIMENS RECEIVED: blood, vitreous fluid, urine, bile, liver, lung, gastric contents, kidney, spleen, muscle, brain, heart.

ADDITIONAL SPECIMENS: exhibit 3a (coffee cup and contents).


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CARBON MONOXIDE: the carboxyhaemoglobin saturation was determined by spectrophotometry with a 10% cut off.
---> NO carboxyhaemoglobin detected in blood.

CYANIDE: the presence of cyanide was screened by Fingal diffusion. Positive cyanides are quantitied using spectrophotometry. The limit of quantitation of cyanide is 0.25(g/ml. Normal blood cyanide concentrations are less than 0.15(g/ml, while lethal concentrations are greater than 3(g/ml.
---> NO cyanide detected in blood.
---> NO cyanide detected in exhibit 3a.

ALLERGEN MARKERS: chromosome analysis conducted through karyotyping and confirmed by chromatography. Genetic material is derived from blood. IgE and AgE markers were searched for, indicating allergies to: nuts; dust; penicillin; pollen; lactic; anaphylaxis; insulin; iodine.
---> NO allergen markers detected in blood.

DRUGS: Immunoassay and chromatography are used to screen for abused drugs. Values in () are the threshold values in (g/ml used to report positive results. Threshold values: amphetamine (0.010); opiates (0.010); marihuana (0.001); coca (0.020); phencyclidine (0.002); saptiva (0.010); benzodiazepines (0.030); ceretiva (0.010); halcyia (0.020); mnemosytes (0.001); cardina (0.001); expedytes (0.001); synergines (0.030).
---> Ceretiva* detected in blood.
---> Ceretiva* detected in brain.
---> Ceretiva* detected in vitreous fluid.
---> Ceretiva* detected in urine.
---> Ceretiva* detected in liver.
---> Ceretiva* detected in gastric contents.
---> Ceretiva* detected in kidney.
---> Ceretiva* detected in exhibit 3a.
*NOTE: Unknown ceretiva derivative - poss black-market.

Ceretiva level in blood quantitied using spectrophotometry. ---> (1.220(g/ml).

Dr Calvin L. Lavant
Consultant Toxicology & Autopsy
Coroner's Office



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For what it's worth, I checked the other 2 case files we knew about (Robert Drake and Crispy Heaven Corp) and they were both access denied, because the files had already been taken out, so we haven't missed any hidden clues there.

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to get the .jpg attachments, just delete the "pd269volintranet" part of the url
i.e.
http://perplexcitypolice.com/case_files/PXC978C675/PXC978C675_COMMUNICATIONS_000.jpg
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According to the Wiki Ceretin is sold as pills in blister packs. This was in the coffee and noone checked it out?

Edit: Even the cheap Ceretin is in pill form.

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I wonder why that wasn't followed up... it does seem odd to miss such a vital piece of evidence. CSI not made it to PXC yet?
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Anyone found a way to get the copies of the encrypted Granier files?
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Isn't it a little odd that his suicide note was recorded at 13:44, almost two hours after he died, and an hour after the initial officer got there? Or could that just be an artifact of its being unsaved?

EDIT: Kudos to CherokeeParkes for the spot, by the way.

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if the ceretin was in pills, he may have just chopped em up into powder before putting them in his coffee or just dissolved them in the coffee or sumthin like that. Of course, since it was probably black market ceretin, it may have come in another form other than a pill, a concentrated liquid maybe
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Okies, we have:

1) What looks like an extremely high dose of Ceretin derivative in the coffee - strong enough that 1/2 a cup killed a habitual user. Also why was it in the coffee, rather than pills? Finally the absence of any sort of packaging is indicative of a clean up

2) The time of the note being hours after the time of death

3) The building security being off, and the door only on the latch, meaning the killer/ clean up clue only had to pull the door shut behind them.

Anything else?

and anyone emailing Kurt & Anna?
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Apartment door locked (on latch). Windows locked and barred.


This only means that he let the person out then locked the door. So he was conscious when whoever slipped him the micky left. The fact he was in a locked room does not indicate suicide[/quote]
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Ive read through the whole report once and 1 other thing i noticed was:

Theres no mention of any packaging/bottle/container, that would have had the ceretin in it, around Cymbalisty or in his apartment. So where was the ceretin before it was in his coffee, carrying it around in his pockets?!

Prob a small thing to note, but it is a bit weird.
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Guin wrote:
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Apartment door locked (on latch). Windows locked and barred.


This only means that he let the person out then locked the door. So he was conscious when whoever slipped him the micky left. The fact he was in a locked room does not indicate suicide
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I actually took this to be a Yale type lock, so in fact the killer could just have pulled the door shut behind them to lock it. ?

and I agree with the lack of packaging too, surely if the police suspected black market Ceretin, of a unknown form, they would look for some sort of container. I'll update the list above.
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