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[GuyP]

And, I mean, where is the actual note anyway? First of all Violet said the police had it, then Anna said she'd locked it way in his office (even though Violet said that he "took the next page home with him each evening") and, well, we can now be fairly sure the police don't have it after all. On top of which, everyone just thinks it's a dumb scrap of paper and is all "A MAN DIED HERE, PEOPLE! JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED!" Mmmhmm, why not give us the diary first and then we'll see what we can do, eh?

*headdesk*

[kizandtango]

That was a really good point about the key, i think we have completely overlooked the fact that anna has it and we havent even TRIED looking at it. No mails back from anna yet, saying how he takes his coffee....and yeah, im confused as to where the actualy Page of the diary is too, and more so, ive forgotten whey we need to see it ! Remind me why we are so eagar to look at it again?

Cheers

Memory like a...thing (not a fish because they have a 3 month memory span)

[GuyP]

Kiz: Always check the wiki

The diaries seem to be important because they center around mysterious experiments during the War years. It looks like Granier and his cohorts are experimenting on a new way of killing people, and having shown that it's worked, they're clearly going to use the same method to kill an awful lot of people indeed. We also know, from Scarlett's recent post, that these events are tied into whatever fate befell the Castille family in the past.

The final excerpt, it's imagined, will tell us whatever secret Edwina Mountling was keeping from Anthony Granier - maybe something to do with Viendenbourg or even The Cube.

Regarding the notes on IC's key: yes, they might be useful to look at. But they only go as far as the sixth installment, which is the one that we already have. So we still need the paper from his office, alas...

[Weefz]

[cassandra]

So, more frustrations and speculations on the autopsy files:

-Why do they omit the neck (and ear and throat) area in the external exam? Perhaps he was strangled or something.

-Why don't they test for alcohols (of any kind) in blood?

-*Are* his kidneys, in fact, normal? I'm trying to figure out how chronic heavy metal poisoning and acute toxic death (theoretically) didn't have much of an effect on his kidneys. The wording of the report can be construed in different ways, certainly...

-..especially since his lungs are hugely heavy and that's not noted. I'm not sure if it's edema that caused the weight, though edema is a common finding in narcotic overdose, occasional cocaine overdose, other anoxic/hypoxic deaths, allergic reaction, etc..is there a cover-up?

-also speaking of metal toxicity - I investigated and found no evidence that (on Earth, at least), copper is used as a *paper* preservative. Copper tends to corrode manuscripts, though when applied to wood and metal, it prevents bacteria/fungus growth and oxidization. Also, pervasive copper use in the Library ought to be a lawsuit waiting to happen. It doesn't make sense to me.

-What is interesting, though, is that Cymbalisty has three fillings. When were they implanted? Do we know their composition? Could easily contain high levels of mercury and/or copper, or other metals (assuming PXC dentists use metals). Mercury poisoning ought to affect the kidneys, though, but could definitely contribute to neurologic problems and damage, plus it becomes more rapidly produced from fillings when in contact with hot liquid.

-And speaking of brain decay, what's the normal timeline for post-infarction necrosis? The resources I've found suggest it takes several days for liquefactive necrosis to set in and become widespread. Edema ought to be the finding 48 hours later. Is this correct? We don't have "burned/fused synapses" on Earth, really, though, so perhaps ceretiva overdose simply accelerates the process.

-What happened to his watch? and pen? I'd like a study of those (esp. pen ink). Is watch-wearing common?

-Again, why no hair, skin, or saliva samples?

-Finally, I found this unscientific theory online called the "copper toxicity syndrome," whose authors purport that individuals with high copper accumulations often abuse stimulants due to adrenal gland malfunction. (adrenals produce certain steroid hormones and catecholamines - epinephrine/adrenaline, norepinephrine). But I can't find anything to back this up.

More later, as I think of it.

[Mikeyj]

[cassandra]

Also, taking into account the liver problems and cleaning sketchiness - what about ammonia toxicity?

[Shoit]

[cassandra]

Welcome! Wilson's has been mentioned on the third page of this thread, actually - search is a good function

I'm just puzzled about the lack of contact from anyone since last Friday. Should we have figured this thing out by now?

[Guin]

Im looking at something I am writing for views from earth and I found this:

[jojojojo]

Yes Guin, it has been mentioned on a new thread here.

Search is your friend!

[Guin]

[cassandra]

Another possibly random thought: is there any connection between Cymbalisty's death and the PCAG final? they occurred on the same day (though if the evidence is correct, Isaac was given his lethal dose of Ceretin Friday night).

Was just thinking about timelines, anyway.

[tally]

If copper is used in inks, could it be a Name of the Rose type scenario? Where Cymbalisty licked his finger to turn manuscript pages, ingesting ink/copper in small quantities over a period of time, thus poisoning himself unwittingly?

I know it's not a neat explanation re: the cleaned room and our determination for a murder to be discovered, but just trying to tidy up the copper-ness in a non ceretin way.

meh

[chimera245]

I speculated in an earlier post that the weight of the lungs could be due to being filled with water?

Doing a back of an envelope calculation, if the additional 500gms per lung weight was water, that would be approx 1 litre.

I originally thought this was way to much (hence the reason I haven't followed it up), but on further research I think this is still goable.

Consulting:

http://www.dundee.ac.uk/forensicmedicine/llb/water.htm

Tells me (much cuttage):