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[UPDATE] Scarlett's Story - 24 Mar 06 - Favour For You
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Daffy889
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lhall wrote:
maniacfive wrote:
EDIT: Does anyone else have touble getting scarletts emails? I never get them, I've signed up twice now. still nada.


They stopped a while back, I don't think anyone's getting them.


Scarlett, on September 30 2005, wrote:
I'm not sending this out in email this week because I'm having some problems with my key. I'm so sorry!


She obviously never had her key fixed, because we haven't been getting emails since then.
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Mima wrote:
This would give us info to move forward, but hopefully not arouse Claire's suspicion that she is being pumped for info.


This being our ultimate goal, I have a few ideas:

We might get more information if we ask our question tied to something Claire feels emotionally attatched to - such as the safety of her son and friends or family of theirs. She might give info to Scarlett asking her questions to stay safe, but if it also involved Allain we might get more.

There may be someone Claire really needs or wants to communicate with/ get a message to. Scarlett could be her messenger. Then we might have a info. to decode in our hands.


Another way may be to bring in some key words without asking a question - say, Scarlett purposfully talking to herself about something she needs to do when she gets back, etc. This could get Claire to bring up an opening on her own.

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 		yup id pretty much agree with that, if we stick to asking something that has personal significance to her, it could be easier to get info and "open the floodgates" so yeah, basicly we need to work on as many questions as possible and try and include allain and her family into them, and asking things such as who she needs to be wary of, PLACES she needs to avoid,maybe even companies she needs to make sure she has no dealings with?

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 		If I may suggest coming at it fFrom a different angle:

I suggest we ask about Reynolds Ionizers, since that may even be what Claire's job was in the theft. Scarlett can ask in a very non-challant way. Like "Say, uhm, you might know something about this. I was reading a journal, before coming to Viendenbourg, and I came across mention of Reynolds Ionizers. I thought you, being a technical genius and all, might know what they are? I haven't a clue." If pressed, she can be honest: She was reading the notes of the late newspaper reporter Pietro Salk, which fFirst pointed her this way. He didnt say was Reynolds Ionizers are, but they seem important.


Also, remember, Scarlett will let us ask two questions. So she could ask one slightly pointed question, and one general fFeeling fFor answers sort of thing.
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 		I think we need to focus on something that is not even related to the cube theft, but may be related to the big picture. This way she may reveal more that we need to know without any threat. I have a feeling we have from her all we need to know about the cube theft directly.

The details of *what* actually happened at Anjsbourg, and how this may or may not be related the activities at Viendenbourg are all missing - but she is the person to tell us - and this does not in any way threaten us.

So how about:

"Do you think that the activities at the Viendenbourg Compound and the dire experiments that caused the destruction of Anjsbourg are related? What do you think *REALLY* happened here?"

BTW on a separate note I now think that the "Clean Room" from the subway was not related to antiquities but Black Market Ceretin Production - obviously the weapon of choice for 3P. What I don't know is why . . .

Just me 2 cp. . .

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"He's very intelligent, and he believes in something. He believe so much that he'd do anything in its service..."
-Police Detective Helena Frye


We need to know more about V. If V is an idealist, perhaps he tried to sell Claire the justification for the crime rather than simply buying her services. I'd ask her if she knows about V's motivations. She did it for the money, but was she sympathetic to whatever it is that drives him?

I don't think we can ask anything that shows we are making a connection between her and the Cube theft. This may include the subject of Reynolds Ionisers.. ?

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chimera245 wrote:
The details of *what* actually happened at Anjsbourg, and how this may or may not be related the activities at Viendenbourg are all missing - but she is the person to tell us - and this does not in any way threaten us.

So how about:

"Do you think that the activities at the Viendenbourg Compound and the dire experiments that caused the destruction of Anjsbourg are related? What do you think *REALLY* happened here?"


Although I agree the Viendenbourg stuff is important I don't think we ought to concentrate too much on it at this point. In her blog Scarlett quotes Claire as saying (re: Viendenbourg):

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"I don't know everything. I never got inside that building. But I know something. They're digging something up there. I don't know what it is. But they're trying to put together something that's buried there, or recreate something that was made a long time ago."


And later on (re: Anjsbourg):

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"I don't know for certain. All I have to go on are some fragments of information, some family legends, and some information I found at the Viendenbourg base. But I think we might find the answers here, in the ruins of Anjsbourg."
...Claire knows she can't stop what's happening at Viendenbourg by herself. But there's an old family legend - that the full story of what happened during the war has never been told - that something was lost, something very valuable, something precious. That part of the secret lies buried under the ruins of Anjsbourg. It might take years but she is going to stay here to try to find it and, for now, Allain is staying too. (my bold)


Therefore any information we get from Claire about what happened at Viendenbourg and Anjsbourg will be partial at best and might be mostly supposition. So, if we only have a couple of questions, then I reckon only one should be about her work at Viendenbourg and the other ought to be about V/the theft in as subtle a way as possible. I agree with Mima's suggestion:

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A safe"ish" route of asking a question would be on the basis of asking if Scarlett has to worry upon her return - i.e. Is there anyone/anywhere I should be avoiding?


as being a perfectly reasonable, non-suspicious question for Scarlett to ask.

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 		Scarlett's blog
One of the reasons this isn't getting more play is that the Scarlett Kite blog doesn't update properly. When I look at http://www.thescarlettkite.com/ the last entry is from the 15th of March. Anything more current I have to find in the archives - who knew (and, no, it's not a browser or cache issue - I checked)? I, for one, am only just catching up as a result and I suppose others may be having the same problem - people don't know there has been movement in this area.

We could always get Scarlett to ask Claire more about what she knows of the family legends . . . That would be significantly personal and not directly about the cube. Really, what is she likely to tell us about the theft? Better to play our cards close to our chest. She doesn't, and shouldn't, know that we know. We don't want her to feel threatened so we can't mention anything about us knowing she was even involved with the theft, yes? We also know where she is so we should prepare to conceal this from V (Scarlett is going to be in danger when she gets back if V figures he can use her to get to Claire). Claire plainly knows more about the legends than she has been saying. I think we need the history lesson.

Here's a bit of pure speculation - maybe the Receda Cude IS the WMD (or a part thereof) and that's why we'll need to find it on earth, to prevent what happened in Viendenbourg from happening on earth. Or, perhaps, the Cube was stolen an hidden to prevent another "attack" on another city, maybe PXC itself. Us trying to return it may be worst thing we could do.

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 		The last entry IS from the 15th of March, there's a seperate page which has all of the Scarlett's Story pieces on. here
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 		Well . . .
If that is the last entry on the blog, why does the new information show up in her archives? Try it - go to http://www.thescarlettkite.com/ , notice the last entry is the 15th, and then check the archive for March to find the new information. What's this doing in the archive if it hasn't even been posted? Call that what you will but it's screwy and misleading. To my way of thinking the archive should have copies of previous posts; if the last post is the 15th then there is no reason for me to look in the archive for an update. Not everyone knows about the "hidden" scarlettsstory area and relies on the blog for information. What's more - pick any month from the archive and thereafter use the next month link to bring up the new information. In fact, the only place we don't see the up-to-date information is on the face of the blog - that's just silly, in my opinion.

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 		Re: Scarlett's blog
EvilGenius wrote:
One of the reasons this isn't getting more play is that the Scarlett Kite blog doesn't update properly. When I look at http://www.thescarlettkite.com/ the last entry is from the 15th of March. Anything more current I have to find in the archives - who knew (and, no, it's not a browser or cache issue - I checked)? I, for one, am only just catching up as a result and I suppose others may be having the same problem - people don't know there has been movement in this area.


its not that it's broke or not working properly, its supposed to be like that for in-game reasons. as we know, scarlett is with allain in anjsbourg and has been doing all this explorey covert stuff since she went on her hiking trip to tanraga. however, as far as her family are concerned, she stayed in tanraga to look after fluffy animals. hence, all her front page blog reports (along with the email notifications) back up the animal hospital cover story, and you have to click on a 'secret' area to access the 'real' story which only we are supposed to have access to.

rach =)

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 		I see
Well, I can live with that explanation, and I thank you for it, even though it doesn't really make sense. Is the blog accessible to PXC (it's supposed to be a "test for our communicating-with-Earth systems")? If not, then hiding her exploits isn't necessary. If it is accessible, then the PXC folks can still find all the information through the blog archives - not a great cover. You don't need to access the "hidden" thread, it's all in the archives (where it shouldn't be if Scarlett is trying to keep her cover up Wink ) Still, I take your point and think I should stop distracting attention from the matter at hand - enough said about this, yes? Smile

And speaking of her cover - Scarlett says on her blog that she has been feeding berries to an owl. Who's ever heard of an owl that eats berries?! Now that's a crappy cover Smile Her family must not be very bright . . .

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 		Re: I see
EvilGenius wrote:
enough said about this, yes? Smile


Yes.

PS search can be your friend........ Wink
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 		a way forward
We need to be more circumspect about how to proceed with this than we were, as a group, about dealing with the police distraction. It's plain that we are expected to communicate with one another and send one email with a question or two. I suggest that people post their potential questions on this thread so that by, say Wednesday, we can collate them and conduct a poll to decide what question(s) will be asked. Then we will need to select someone to send off the email. Maybe the person who contributed the selected question could be the one to submit it to Scarlett. Does that sound reasonable? If so, I would suggest posters include a clear statement of their question in their post so we can just cut and paste them to construct the poll, without any one person being responsible for the language, along with why they think their question is a good one. I also think we should agree on some rules by which to vet questions (we can't spook Claire, can't ask directly about the Cube, the question shouldn't communicate knowledge to Claire that we don't intend - like that we know/suspect her crime was stealing/trying to steal the Cube).

Several people mentioned that we should ask more about the cube theft, who was involved, who is V, etc. Surely these are exactly the questions we can't ask. If we ask about any of this we tell Claire that we know that she was involved with the Cube theft and give her a reason to keep Scarlett from leaving. I think we need to ask about 1) something she knows; 2) is not directely related to the cube theft; 3) be a reasonable question for Scarlett (not us) to ask.

What would Claire think if Scarlett started asking a lot of questions about V? What does he have to do with Scarlett, from Claire's position? How to avoid him, what he looks like - these are answers to our questions but would not be sensible coming from Scarlett given what Claire knows about her. Here are my ideas:

1) ask about her family legends in the hopes of learning more about what happened in Viendenbourg;

2) ask about what she knows of Sente Kiteway and his involvement at present-day Viendenbourg (recall that security at Viendenbourg thought that Scarlett was there to test out secuity measures on his behalf). This would be my first choice.

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 		Re: a way forward
EvilGenius wrote:
We need to be more circumspect about how to proceed with this than we were, as a group, about dealing with the police distraction. It's plain that we are expected to communicate with one another and send one email with a question or two. I suggest that people post their potential questions on this thread so that by, say Wednesday, we can collate them and conduct a poll to decide what question(s) will be asked.


Good plan - I'd like to second that.

I still think that making all our questions about Viendenbourg is the wrong way to go though. See, at the moment, we're pursuing 3 main story threads - Cymbalisty's murder, V/Cyrus Quinton/the Cube theft and what happened at Viendenbourg. We don't have any connection between Claire and Cymbalisty so that leaves the other 2 subjects. I think that Scarlett's blog is deliberately leading us towards asking about the theft not the experiments.

If we can't get any information from Claire about Viendenbourg then we still have other routes that might lead us to the same information. We still have the last page of the Granier diary (if anyone ever goes and fetches it for us - it's almost as if these people had something better to do than pander to our every whim! Smile ) which seems to describe an experiment relating to the present day ones. Should anything happen to Claire then we could still talk to her father - he would probably know the family legends at least - or it's conceivable that she's told Allain more than she's told Scarlett and, given that Scarlett 'rescued' him from Viendenbourg, he might be more forthcoming with the infomation than Claire. As a very last resort Scarlett could even decide to blow her cover and ask her father what he knows about the compound. So really there are a few ways in to that story.

In comparison, when it comes to the Cube theft, we've hardly any leads left - Monica Grand, Pietro Salk, Bernardo Holyoke are all dead; the Police seem to have drawn a blank; V is just a 'shadow'. Unless one of the insiders in the Academy suddenly has a crisis of conscience and confesses all then Claire is the only connection we currently have to V and the rest of the conspiracy. Given that Claire herself has already told Scarlett that she was involved in a crime and that she's in danger from V:

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"I worked on a job in 267 - an illegal job, I sometimes take them on to fund our Viendenbourg research - but this one went bad. The man who employed me has eliminated the two others who worked on the job with us and I'm certain he'd come after me if he could... He's a shadow, a figment. You could never find him. I only ever knew him as V," she shook her head, "and that's no help at all."


then I don't think it's unreasonable to ask questions about it - we just don't tell Claire that we know it's the Cube theft she's talking about. I think pursuing the personal safety angle like a couple of people have already mentioned could be best - should Scarlett have anyone/anything to fear when she returns from the city; is there any one she should avoid, etc? As a teenage girl caught up in a potentially life-threatening situation, I don't think there's anything suspicious about her expressing concerns for her own safety.

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