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[UPDATE] Scarlett's Story - 24 Mar 06 - Favour For You
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DrKra37
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 		First, I like both asking about the theft/"illegal job" that Claire was involved in and avout Scarlett's personal safety, and I think they're perfectly rational questions to ask.

Secondly, apologies if I make some sort of n00b error, as I am, in fact, a n00b Razz

Finally, though, and the reason for this post: In exploring the Perplex City Academy website, I found the following on the Museum page:

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As part of the exhibition we will be putting on display for the first time artefacts which are thought to originate in those long-forgotten cities: Anjsbourg, Viehattle, Machiantes and Garifex. Our knowledge about these objects is necessarily limited but they will serve as points of reflection and meditation. We also display documents recovered from the military archives, explaining Perplex City's role in the war and the build-up to the final conflict of the year 0. We make some conjecture as to the chain of events, but in general prefer to provide the evidence we possess and leave it to the individual to draw their own conclusions.


Perhaps Claire knows something useful that we don't about this subject, or the other three cities mentioned besides Anjsbourg?

Just a shot in the dark, and not sure if it's worthwhile, but it's a thought Razz

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 		That's not a bad idea, we could ask her what's the SP at the dig.
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 		Re: a way forward
echidna wrote:
I think pursuing the personal safety angle like a couple of people have already mentioned could be best - should Scarlett have anyone/anything to fear when she returns from the city; is there any one she should avoid, etc? As a teenage girl caught up in a potentially life-threatening situation, I don't think there's anything suspicious about her expressing concerns for her own safety.

I'm not convinced about the personal safety angle. V doesn't know that Scarlett has any connection with the Castille family, and as long as she keeps quiet about it when she returns, she should be safe. Note that Claire only expressed concerns about Allain's safety, not Scarlett's.

There's another angle that could be tried, though, but it's a long shot.
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"I'm afraid," she said, one evening at the end of a long dig, "that V would find you. He'd try to use you to get to me. He might... he has no scruples. I'm sorry."

If V can get to Claire through her son, why wouldn't he do it through her father? Henry Castille might be in danger, even if he doesn't know where she is now. Maybe Scarlett could get information in order to enable Henry Castille to protect himself from V? Mind you, I don't believe that Claire knows anything more about V, given her answer to Allain. And there's the issue of her not wanting her father to know about the happenings at Viendenbourg.

I'd go for the Ionizers. We may not be able to discuss the theft, but Allain and Henry both know about Scarlett researching Viendenbourg and Reynolds Ionizers, so I suppose Claire has been told. It would be safe to ask her about them. Remember, she's potentially got two connections to them: first through her research into Viendenbourg, but also through her fellow thief Bernardo Holyoake and the thefts from the Academy. She may not want to discuss her 'illegal job' but she might know more about the Ionizers than she would have learnt from Viendenbourg alone.
So something along the lines of: "I met Allain and your father because I was researching Reynolds Ionizers. Do you know what they are and what they are used for?"

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We need to be more circumspect about how to proceed with this than we were, as a group, about dealing with the police distraction. It's plain that we are expected to communicate with one another and send one email with a question or two. I suggest that people post their potential questions on this thread so that by, say Wednesday, we can collate them and conduct a poll to decide what question(s) will be asked.


And I third that! A poll as of Wednesday sounds like the most sensible, that way everyone can have their say without needing to think of something new to say on the topic. Who will send the email?

I agree also with the Reynolds Ionizers. They are of paramount importance (we think) in the theft of the cube, but we have no idea about them or how they work, nor who could use them.

As for the 2nd question, I just feel that something that Claire feels emotive towards would be best. She is far more likely to spill some information she would normally hold back if she thought it may save her sons life?

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From Scarlett's latest post: Allain is staying too


Although Allain is staying, if V were to find out Scarlett has been to see Claire, then surely they'd know about Allain too. That could be the angle to use?

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 		Here's the rub
Thanks for the support.

I was wondering just what things must look like from Claire's perspective. Since Allain refers to Scarlett as "Scarlett" in front of Claire, it stands to reason that Claire knows who she is, that is to say, that she knows Scarlett is Sente's daughter and that she is on the Cube retrieval team. Now if Claire was, indeed, working for Sente doing the security for Viendenbourg, what would she think of Scarlett's appearance at Anjsbourg? Is she there to check up on Claire? Does Claire know that Scarlett suspects her of being involved in the Cube theft? If staff at Viendenbourg thought Scarlett was on a mission, maybe paranoid Claire does too. We have to be careful. If we play this wrongly Claire may make it difficult for Scarlett to leave without engaging Sente. His role in all this is very interesting . . . Actually, that might not be a bad thing. I'd like to hear what he has to say about Viendenbourg and what is going on there.

As for the Reynolds Ionizers, I had intended to add that to my list as well so I'm glad others have mentioned it. This seems to be important, though it's not clear just how right now, and would satisfy the requirements I suggested (provided Claire knows anything about them - that's a risk). Since Claire was only doing base security there is no reason to assume she knows what it was that she was protecting.

Personally, I wonder just who high up in the Academy is involved with the Cube theft - we know that at least one person above the Adjunct layer is involved. With Sente being involved with Viendenboug, it makes me wonder what side we are on. I'm speculating that the Cube was stolen to prevent it from being misused, that it was a part of the WMD that destroyed Viendenbourg. Maybe.

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 		Well . . .
Echidna - we don't, as you say, have a link between Isaac and Claire but Claire must be wondering why Scarlett is there at Anjsbourg, as I mentioned above. Remember what got Scarlett out there in the first place? The file back with the words "Viendenbourg" and "Reynold's Ionizer" written on it. I think we need to allay Claire's suspicions that Scarlett may have been "sent" there by offering a reason why she would come, that is to say, to investigate a lead in her friend's death. That would legitimize Scarlett's presence, don't you think? It would also put them on more similar emotional ground (Scarlett having lost a friend, Claire worried about losing her son). Unless I missed something, there is no reason for Scarlett to be worried about V herself, so discussing him would be out of the question. Likewise the Cube theft itself. If you were Claire would you confess to a Cube Hunter that you were involved in stealing it, especially when you have said Cube Hunter at a disadvantage (poor key reception, no way out, etc)? Remember, Claire will not want to get to close to Scarlett since, as a Cube Hunter, Scarlett is looking for the people to took the cube - Claire (among others).

Here's my list of what has been suggested thus far:

1 - Who is V?
2 - How did he recruit her in the first place?
3 - Did she know him before the theft?
4 - As whom did he present himself to her (as Cyrus Quinton?)
5 - And how did he contact her as the plan progressed?
6 - Who else is involved in the conspiracy?
7 - Did Claire ever hear of or have contact with anyone other than V, Bernardo Holyoke and Monica Grand?
8 - Why steal the Cube in the first place?
9 - What happened to the Cube?
10 - Two academy insiders to circumvent the 3 alarm systems so perfectly. Does she know who these people were?
11 - Was the cube stolen to prevent a WMD being used?
12 - What happened on the night of the cube theft?
13 - details about the theft itself
14 - ask her if she knows about V's motivations
15 - more details about the discovery and properties of the Cube
16 - what happened at Viendenbourg
17 - asking about the theft/"illegal job" that Claire was involved in

18 - ask about Reynolds Ionizers and Klebold plates
19 - asking if Scarlett has to worry upon her return - i.e. Is there anyone/anywhere I should be avoiding?
20 - details of what actually happened at Anjsbourg
21 - ask Claire more about what she knows of the family legends
22 - ask about what she knows of Sente Kiteway and his involvement at present-day Viendenbourg

My apologies if I missed anything.

Personally, I think 1-17 are out of bounds as they are directly related to the cube theft and will put Scarlett at risk (and Claire won't tell her anything anyway, why would she?). 18 is reasonable, I think, as it validates Scarlett being in Anjsbourg and shouldn't worry Claire too much. This would be very interesting as it might point the way to understand Isaac's death and how the Cube (and perhaps the 3P) can travel to earth. 19 doesn't work for me - there is no reason for Scarlett to feel at risk upon returning to the city. 20, Claire is unlikely to know anything about this though we can assume that Viendenbourg had the same fate. 21 might be interesting but would only give us unsubstantiated stories, if she has more to tell. If she knew that the Cube was directly involved in the destruction at Viendenbourg that would be a great step forward in our thinking as to why the Cube was stolen in the first place. 22 is awkward (though I have a feeling I'm missing something about this) - someone said that Sente had visited there to check up - I don't remember that. I would love to know more about this as we know that there are people high up in the Academy involved and they don't get much higher than Sente. Still, Claire might find it odd that Scarlett is asking about her own father - she might think it's some kind of trap, a set-up to get her to violate secrecy or something.

In the end, I think that the Ionizers and Klebold plates are reasonable to ask about. If we can ask two questions, the second one I would ask would be either about the remaining family legends or about Sente and the involvment of the Academy at Viendenbourg.

We don't have a lot of time - please add to the list, dispute and support notions as you see fit, just don't drag this out as we need to come to an agreement in a few days.

It has been asked who will send the note. I will volunteer (someone has to) to manage this effort unless anyone would prefer a different arrangement. Let's get at 'er!

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 		I like the idea of asking about the family legends and Sente's involvement at Viendenbourg. I think we can combine them into one question though, soemthing about what her family legends are and whether Sente knows of them.

That would give us another question to obliquely ask about the theft. We need to come up with a way of asking about the theft, without revealing that Scarlett knows Claire stole the cube.

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 		Re: Well . . .
EvilGenius wrote:
Here's my list of what has been suggested thus far:

1 - Who is V?
2 - How did he recruit her in the first place?
3 - Did she know him before the theft?
4 - As whom did he present himself to her (as Cyrus Quinton?)
5 - And how did he contact her as the plan progressed?
6 - Who else is involved in the conspiracy?
7 - Did Claire ever hear of or have contact with anyone other than V, Bernardo Holyoke and Monica Grand?
8 - Why steal the Cube in the first place?
9 - What happened to the Cube?
10 - Two academy insiders to circumvent the 3 alarm systems so perfectly. Does she know who these people were?
11 - Was the cube stolen to prevent a WMD being used?
12 - What happened on the night of the cube theft?
13 - details about the theft itself
14 - ask her if she knows about V's motivations
15 - more details about the discovery and properties of the Cube
16 - what happened at Viendenbourg
17 - asking about the theft/"illegal job" that Claire was involved in

18 - ask about Reynolds Ionizers and Klebold plates
19 - asking if Scarlett has to worry upon her return - i.e. Is there anyone/anywhere I should be avoiding?
20 - details of what actually happened at Anjsbourg
21 - ask Claire more about what she knows of the family legends
22 - ask about what she knows of Sente Kiteway and his involvement at present-day Viendenbourg


If 1-17 are OOB, then how about starting a poll on 18-22 somewhere?

EDIT: Personally, I'd go with asking 21 and/or 22 there. The family legend will show us a bit more history, but Viendenbourg has been bugging me for far too long, especially with my doubts about Sente's trustability.
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 		In time
We've only just gotten this off the ground so maybe we can start a poll tomorrow once people have a chance to add/edit/dispute what is there. If there isn't much more interest today I can try to set up a poll (haven't done that before so I could use some direction) later tonight. I'm in Vancouver so that's 8 hours behind you all. By the time I get home from work you'll be in bed so I can see what transpired through the day/night. Barring any more brilliant ideas, I will poll 18-22 as you suggest.

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 		There's nothing stopping us asking all questions that we consider 'in-bounds'.
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If you can think of one or two questions I could ask without arousing suspicion, I'll be glad to ask it.
, So i'm just assuming that we can only get a couple into conversation.

But if they were all sent in one mail, i guess you'd be right.
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 		Oh ignore me then, I'm a fool...carry on as you were.
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 		OK, I'm impatient and just had to get started on the poll. It's up now but I have asked the moderators to find out if I can have more than three options listed. We hardly need a poll if we only get to choose from three as we could likely combine them somehow. Leave off voting until that gets sorted please, or we can't change it.

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 		yes, you can have more than three options listed.
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 		How about a nice broad question about her computer skills, maybe not specifically directed toward the cube theft, but in discussing those skills it may be easier to lead the conversation toward that particular topic?
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