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[META] The Metacortechs ARG
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Fardreamer
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I disagree about it being a stupid pointless internet game. Are you playing it with the sole purpose of finding out spoilers for Revolutions? Then hust hope on the first spoiler forum you come accross and you'll know everything there is to know. I agree that the allure of the ARG is much greater if you know that some juicy bits of (canon) info about the history of the Matrix are waiting along the way, but regardless, it doesn't have to be official for it to be fun. The fact that it was done independantly doesn't detract anything from it's quality - on the contrary, it makes it even more remarkable.

I come from the Star Wars computer game modding community, and I can tell you that mods with fan-written Star Wars themes often surpass the game they're made for in quality, depth, gameplay and many other aspects.

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Igpajo
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Fardreamer wrote:
I disagree about it being a stupid pointless internet game. Are you playing it with the sole purpose of finding out spoilers for Revolutions?
...regardless, it doesn't have to be official for it to be fun. The fact that it was done independantly doesn't detract anything from it's quality - on the contrary, it makes it even more remarkable.

I totally agree. I don't mean to dissuade anyone from playing the game at all. Like you I'm even more impressed with the PM's knowing they're doing this all on their own. I just think all the Matrix Fans who are playing this under the assumption that it's a Wachowski product deserve to know that it isn't.

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I wanted to know details of Neoīs life, Metacortex, the Matrix world, all this aproved by the bros. , but now... Sad

P.S. : I donīt know how you guys were able to prove that this is not related to Matrix.

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I think that we're at a stage in the game where it might be, or it might not be related to the matrix, going only off what we have in the game as opposed to taking in a whole bunch of "real-world" influences... Part of the incentive to keep playing is the not knowing though... the what if?
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niobexrev
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Many of the reasons people give for this not being an official ARG can also support the idea that this is an official ARG.

That in mind. There will most likely be one of 2 developments. 1.) if the Wachowskis have no involvement in this, they will come forward and make a formal announcement. 2.) If they do have involvement in this they will keep their mouths shut. But of course there's the third possibility which I have a hard time believing but it's not impossible, is that if the Wachowskis have no involvement in this, but they do find it amusing and what not, they'll still keep their mouth shut because, damn, maybe even they are playing.

Rolling Eyes

Anyway, if the Wachowskis are involved in this, the best way to make this game work is to make people think it's a real website for one. When I first saw this thing, my suspicions were a little raised, maybe there really is a Metacortex in Redland, Washington. Of course there isn't.

So once people figure that out, to keep the player's interest heightened in that cloud of mystery, don't let the websites even subtly quote from the Matrix. There are a few things which I might find obvious, but those things a lot of people still say things like, "ehhh... you know how many Thomas Andersons there are in the world?"

Many people also think that this ARG shows no more complexity or no more expense than other ARGs. I don't know about that. They must have some pretty huge brains to compose about 10 original songs (some of which certainly sound more than just synthesizers or composed on "Finale" and converted to a sound file.), have about 10 phone numbers people can call up, several fax numbers, like 20 or 30 email accounts, well-designed web pages, a cast of characters with a wide age-range used in their photographs, the complex artwork used in putting together most if not all of these jpegs on any of the sites. I could go on.

Now, yes it is possible for ameteur Matrix fans to put this on. Very possible. They of course are truly gifted on both sides of the brain to the point that their heads outweigh their bodies.

This Metacortex game looks to be all planned out. Well, not all. I'm sure they change things or add things based on how the players are doing. But for the most part I would guess whoever was doing this was probably planning for a very long time.
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invfish wrote:
I don't think it will end in a mooning =P

I'm just thinking that compared to other matrix things.. other matrix things were definitely matrix based and not shy about it (ie storyline based ).

Just looking at the 'plot' and storyline of the arg so far, it doesnt seem to fit into the matrix storyline just yet.
I'll wait until I see any reference to Zion or Sentinals or 'unplugging' etc..
If it is definitely officially matrix based. I would like to see how the storyline so far does fit into the matrix storyline.

I think maybe the PM"s have used the matrix theme.. but it's obscure.
They have gone to a lot of trouble tho, way too much to do a 'mooning' at the end of it.

Maybe its the storyline of whats happening in the "matrix" in another persons eyes.

There are a lot of maybe's tho.

I guess we all really can't say until it's been completed.

So far tho, the prize in this game has been working out the answers before other people ( or contributing ) and getting major props =)
Even if there is a mooning ( Im 100% sure there wont be ).. the props enough is worth it. ( Although I haven't got any yet.. hehe.. but been stinging to get answers first ) and I love how people are working together to get through it, because if there was no team work.. nothing would be solved.

this is getting wayyyy off topic..
Another truth tho, is if I had spent as much time on this, as effort into doing a backflip. I would've been able to do a backflip now. =P Instead of working out clues.. I could've been neo-styling it in real life =P
btw.. just to add.. you know how neo gets taught all of those things in seconds by a program. We can also learn those things by setting goals and patterns and spending time on it. You just draw a line, the start is where you are now, the end is a goal, such as mastering a martial art.. then you just put your heart into it and focus all of your mind, body, soul, and love.. and go at it hard and with a lot of discipline.. each blockage in the line.. you work out another way to get past it.. until you reach your goal.. once you have.. you then do another goal.. maybe mastering another art ( there is quite a few out there hehe ).. and then your neo-styling.. then you set harder goals.. extremely hard hard hard goals.. maybe deep meditation that takes you into a dream like state where you are in a dream (after many many years.. but time doesnt exist in a dream, only the perception of it ;P ).. maybe running further and faster than you ever could before.. growth, we are all still growing.. just like neo does in the movie.
* strays back on topic * then it don't matter who created what (ie WB or matrix fans ), only what you can learn from it while your on your journey.

/me thinks I've been watching too many martial arts movies on the world channel.


God, thanks for the after school specail. Rolling Eyes

Anyway, don't you think that if there were any hard evidence that this was matrix related, that some fun would be lost in our little process here? That's part of it. If the WBs were involved do you really think they would start putting in things like, "And then Beth met Neo and Morpheus, and helped her escape the Matrix"? Come on. Yeah there would still be some people in here, but a lot of people would leave becasue there's no mystery left. That's part of the mystery, is it or is it not official.
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God, thanks for the after school specail.

Anyway, don't you think that if there were any hard evidence that this was matrix related, that some fun would be lost in our little process here? That's part of it. If the WBs were involved do you really think they would start putting in things like, "And then Beth met Neo and Morpheus, and helped her escape the Matrix"? Come on. Yeah there would still be some people in here, but a lot of people would leave becasue there's no mystery left. That's part of the mystery, is it or is it not official.


I was just replying to your quote in your other thread..

You sound disheartened that WB may not be involved..
If they aren't.. I think double the respect goes out to the creators.

You wrote that you were queezy because you found other pics the same as beth on other sites.. and sounded mopy and swore.
You put in a thread, and criticised people that replied with their own opions. ( Maybe you were just dis-heartened at the time because you found the other pics on the net. )

Either WB are involved, which means we have people using a great deal of media for their story.
If not, we have great mind's that have created a great arg that has left most of us, if not all, stumped at times ( especially with mlo's password )..

I do know people are playing this game because they think it has been commisioned by WB.
I just really, really, really hope that if at the end, if it's not done by WB.. people show the same ( if not more ) respect to the creators of the game.
I'm just saying if the only reason people are playing is because they think it's done by the WB.. then they're missing out on a great mind creating.. whether it be WB or not.
And if the the mystery is part of the fun.. why try and find out ?.. if you did, there would be no more mystery left.

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Jeez catching up, sorry for the late reply

Azathoth666 wrote:
Oh, and an "I survived the Cascade Vortex" dishcloth.

Laughing Laughing


Yeah I'd be up for some of that Laughing

About the matrix tie in question. My answer is simple.

"I DON'T CARE"

I came to this think with a lot of other Matrix-heads, too stuck in the matrix to see anything else.

This game has introduced me to a whole new concept of interactive entertainment - sure I've exchanged weapon fire online with Jar-heads, but at the end of the day it's a real no-brainer.

This ARG, hooked me with the matrix theme - as it did many, but what I get out of it now is much more than what I expected.

No doubt about it, those responsible have done a spendid job putting it all together, whoever they are. The absence of a cheque signed by the Wacowskis can only add to the respect I have for them as a result.

Perhaps the Americans among you sometimes forget about subtle cultural differences, what works for you might not work for us overseas participants.

I have seen ARGs so wrapped up in themselves that they forget this, and use clues that would leave anyone not from the U.S. completely lost. Particulalry where grammar is important to the solution.

This one seems to have avoided such pitfalls and my frustrations are as a result of me missing something, rather than of it being "Too American".

I'd just like to add that I hate you all for the lack of sleep, thank you Very Happy
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invfish wrote:

I was just replying to your quote in your other thread..

You sound disheartened that WB may not be involved..
If they aren't.. I think double the respect goes out to the creators.

You wrote that you were queezy because you found other pics the same as beth on other sites.. and sounded mopy and swore.
You put in a thread, and criticised people that replied with their own opions. ( Maybe you were just dis-heartened at the time because you found the other pics on the net. )

Either WB are involved, which means we have people using a great deal of media for their story.
If not, we have great mind's that have created a great arg that has left most of us, if not all, stumped at times ( especially with mlo's password )..

I do know people are playing this game because they think it has been commisioned by WB.
I just really, really, really hope that if at the end, if it's not done by WB.. people show the same ( if not more ) respect to the creators of the game.
I'm just saying if the only reason people are playing is because they think it's done by the WB.. then they're missing out on a great mind creating.. whether it be WB or not.
And if the the mystery is part of the fun.. why try and find out ?.. if you did, there would be no more mystery left.


My "after school special" comment was referring to your long winded but well-meaning (gives you thumbs up) lesson on life, which clearly wasn't a response to my thread.

The only reason I critisized you was because of your comment on how the company name "Metacortex" is not spelled the same way in the movie as it is in this ARG. And this seemed to imply that the ARG had nothing to do with The Matrix. Again I don't understand how you can make a statement like that having watched the film. Maybe you didn't, but it is spelled both ways in the movie. Even so, I don't even know how you can make a statement like that even in playing this game. The name on the main page is "Metacortex" while the web address is metacortechs.com. JUST LIKE IN THE MOVIE! Maybe you just joined the game. And I don't know maybe you haven't even gone to the mainpage but are looking at other pages like Underscore and whatnot. All very much part of the game, but the focus (as this forum index indicates) is Metacortechs or, again I say, Metacortex.

And for the love of God, why are you misunderstanding me? For the umpteenth time, I could give a rats furry poopshoot if the PMs are WB or ameteur fans. My hope is that whoever it may be, the ending won't turn out to be extremely stupid. This scenario seems more likely if it were ameteurs.

And then people keep saying, "You know if the end turns out to be something stupid, I won't care because I had fun playing it." Yeah, sure. Do you say the same thing when you go to a movie? A movie that was good throughout the whole 2 hours and then an ending that ruined it for you? Some, a few, yes. But most people hate the film (even some in here that say "all I care about is that we're having fun now") because of the ending.

I guess we'll find out won't we. Honestly I am having fun. I just raised an issue. And obviously everyone in here thought it important enough to respond. Because it is part of the mystery is it not? Who's behind this? And those who promptly responded with "I don't care" cared enough to respond... all 5 pages worth seems to show that this topic is kind of important.
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In my opinion, the story of this arg happens not in the matrix, but in a world pre-matrix. That's why there are no references to matrix stuff.

I think this is supposed to be the way the matrix has been built:

- a software company developping VR games (metacortex)
- some "improve your life, spirit and mental health" gurus (leiphe)
- some psicological / paranormal mind reseachers (PJR)
- others?

What would be the role of aquapolis?

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you know what?
I dont really care, its too much fun to take seriously.

......... buuuuuuut... on the metacortex site it says something like "pluging you into the metacortex" no mention of the matrix so far.

either way whoever made this game be it larry and andy or some seriusly obsessive fans (like were not) its really well put together and when its done provided the ending isnt too rubbish they deserve all the praise they get.

the aquapolis could be the roots of zion.

I'll get me coat. Very Happy
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ricduarte wrote:
In my opinion, the story of this arg happens not in the matrix, but in a world pre-matrix. That's why there are no references to matrix stuff.


it'd be a strong argument, except Thomas Anderson was in the matrix, worked for metacortex in the matrix... and in this world metacortex employeed a thomas anderson. I think we're inside the matrix looking out.

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