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[Rogi Ocnorb]

[ItWasntMeISwear]

Okay, I have been thinking about this for a few minutes and have come to some conclusions.

1) I do not think that the killer was in the room when the cocaine was snorted and, thus, ended up in Jack's system.

2) The choice of drug is strange because of the whole "no defensive" wounds comment that "Nar" made. Cocaine makes you hyper and so it would make sense to me that the victim in this case would have been swinging his arms around, causing defensive wounds. However, the drug of choice could also have been the reason why Jack was stabbed so many times. As well as making you hyper, cocaine has a way of making you feel no pain and believe that you are invinsible. It probably took a few stabs just to get Jack to slow down a bit.

In short, some things just do not add up for me yet, but I am working on it.

EDIT: New reply and a short conversation with the "nar" dude.

First, the e-mail reply:

[matalanifesto]

I agree totally on getting wisdomwarrior to do an interview, hes got that truthiness vibe.

[audioslave]

Ok, the fact the he wasn't wearing a shirt plays a part, I think.

That might back up my theory of him being murdered by a lover. If he was dressing just after having sex, and his lover found something that might have sent her over the deep end (A photo of his girlfriend?) she might have killed him

[ItWasntMeISwear]

I dunno. As someone who lives alone (most of the time) there is a scary freedom that makes one feel the need to shed some clothing. You don't even want to know what I am wearing (or is it, what I am not wearing?).

Anyway, the last person that he talked to was his girlfriend (the day before he was murdered). While I find it strange that there was no phone contact made with Jack up to and including the time of his death by anyone (Jack didn't even bother to call anyone in that time period), I still can not conclude yet that she had anything to do with it. In fact, if I was to interview her, I would tell her that I don't think that she did it and that I was only going to ask her questions about Jack and his life/habit.

Speaking of the phone conversations, one question that I would ask one of the suspects was if Jack ever called from a payphone. One thing to note: People who deal in or with drugs normally do not use their own phones to make calls to their dealers or clients, unless they are stupid and want to get caught. If Jack is one of the smart ones, he probably didn't use his personal phone that much to begin with.

[matalanifesto]

dealers in london get pay and go mobiles (cells) to do their buisness on afaik.

[Chewy]

[ItWasntMeISwear]

[ItWasntMeISwear]

You mean I spent all that time typing that out and it's been deleted? Gosh darn it.

Anyway, to the one who posted about the "pay and go", I agree with you on those. I just didn't know that you were talking about those types of phones. Then again, after reading your entry a little bit more, it is quite obvious that you were. That's my bad.

As for the "warrant" issue, that will come at a later date and time (No need to take up space having a meaningless conversation about something that has nothing to do with the game at hand).

[Rogi Ocnorb]

Much more unbridled speculation and we won't even have to play this game.

[ItWasntMeISwear]

[Rogi Ocnorb]

Now, won't you be embarrassed when we find that the heat was off in the apartments, causing a broken pipe in the upstairs flat which leaked through the ceiling and formed icicles on Jack's ceiling which fell on him while he was crashed out on the floor after a cocaine binge/crash cycle? (He was so wired, he didn't notice the cold)

[ItWasntMeISwear]

Not embarrassed, more like disappointed that I didn't think of it first ("How could I have missed the icicles? Man, they are sneaky.")

[matalanifesto]

had a chat with narrator9 today, unfortunatly i was shattered and at work at the time, but it contains basic info not listed in this thread yet, so may be helpful to other newcomers.
So here is my pathetic attempt at communication on ten minutes sleep the night before:

[L.Boomer]

Hi gang,
Just reading through this thread and I am finding this pretty fascinating. One thing that sort of comes to mind (for me anyways) would be to push for a bit more information from the autopsy. We know that he was stabbed, but what was the official cause of death? Did the attacker get him in the heart, lung, liver, or was it slower (like superficial wounds that bled out)? I would guess it was one or more of the stab wounds hitting a major organ, but we don't want to just assume.

Also, the type of blade could be helpful later on as well. Was it long or short, wide or narrow, serrated or smooth, these are are things they could have info on from the autopsy besides the cocain in the system. The direction of the stab wounds could help as well, were they thrust in an upward motion, or downward (or straight for that matter like he was in a lying position at the time). Were there any other superficial wounds or marks found on the body that could help explain the lack of defensive wounds (like bruising on the wrists or feet from being tied)?

Just some thoughts.

*edit** We may want to push for more info about the crimescene as well. A photo or two would be nice, but not sure if that is possible, but it would be nice to have a better description. Was the place ransacked? was there anything that was obviously missing (wallet, car, etc..)? Also did he have a computer? it would be nice to see if there was anything on it that might help us (journal)?