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#234 Mosaically Challenged (Hex)
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EvilGenius
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Has anyone noticed that some of the numbers seem to be a count of the total number of black squares to either side and above/below each number when you count from the number to the border in each direction? At least to the best that I can make out from the low res scan. That seems like an interesting coincidence but don't know what to make of it. Maybe we need to fill in the black squares with words until this pattern is consistent all over the board. Can't really make out the text surrounding the board . . .
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If you look at the number boxes there are little colored lines that seem to be the same as the main ones. I was wondering if,like loopy pixels, that some kind of color shift is needed

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JayJay, re: the detail on the numbers.

You say that you've got a minus sign before or after each number? I'm looking at that as part of the small mosaic pattern in each of those tiles. What you see as a minus sign I'm seeing as the top of a pinkish/purplish "T" shape that switches sides.

As you point out the mini-mosaics are very similiar apart from the bottom 2 rows. But there are differences on the verticals. Specifically the number & postition of purple tiles on the right hand vertical and the light blues and dark greens on the left hand vertical are also moving about. Unfortunately I can't see a pattern at the moment!

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Mike
Yes they are more t shaped the top bar being 3 pink mini tiles and the vertical being 3 purple.

(I tend to do my thinking out loud in the form of these posts. Noticed the t shape but failed to comment)

Oh I quite like the idea of constructing a 10th mini numbered tile with 0 being the single digit number... In the process of this! using the big tiles as a referance and trying to find some kind of pattarn.

Also thinking about looking at how many tiles of each colour etc
For both the mini Numbered Mosaics and the main one.

Oh if we made this 10th tile using tiles from the main pic it will leave us quite a few remaining. (Thinks Hard) Maybe this could then point us in the right direction of constructing a message/cllue from the words
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Yet another thought
I reckon there is a definite picture of a computer game sprite.
Maybe a running man. (Head top left! Ginger red hair, Yellow face).
It must be some kind of computer charecter.
I think we have to figure out this pic first then work out what the hack the smaller numbered tiles mean.
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http://www.aolej.com/mosaic/tilemosaics.htm

have not got time to check this out yet but if i find anything i will let you know

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No information, but a better indication of what you're working with.
I (PAINSTAKINGLY) recreated the pixels to their original size.
I also tiled them and blew one up to card-size for accuracy.

I know that some shades could be better, but the visual gets across fine.

Now, I leave it to you guys to figure out what in the world this thing is while I go back to Broadside. Very Happy
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Each of the numbers is on a miniature mosaic (each one different) which is 12 squares wide like the main mosaic. There must be a connection there, but atm I just cannot see what the relationship might be.
You really need the card (and in my case a magnifying glass) to see this.
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Well, I just put grey where the numbers were, because I knew there was no way on earth I could get that kind of detail.

It was more for the overall image, shrunk to pixel-size for another avenue of analysis.

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Observations I have so far (as I haven't got anything better)

There are 5 colours (red, purple, green, yellow blue) and 3 shades for each (dark, standard and light), for a total of 15 different colours.

There are 36 black squares, which incidentally is the amount of black space on the top of each number.

the frequent words are collected mostly in the top left (the, of, a, and)

'the' is the only word to occur more than once (3 times).

HTH

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Hey Cheers GasparLewis

I was gonna get round to doing something similar but got very annoyed trying to colour match the tiles etc... (plus spare time at a premium) I guess we can now help to create the mini numbered tiles using the colours in your image. So that we can have a standardised colour scheme. This being a good idea because some of those colours are quite similar.

Big thanks.

JJ

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actually sorry Gasper the purple isn't quite right! Theres slightly darker tiles plus lighter purple/pink in the botttom right hand corner.
I may have a go at correcting it, as I guess you don't own the card
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Precious occurs twice too. Shades of My Precious? I've tried googling the low frequency words, like shards, clique and obfuscate, in case we're solving a quotation, but so far nothing. Each number has the same number of tiny squares around it, but with a different pattern of colours, apart from the bits which project in towards the number. I guess if it were possible to fit the words into the spaces as some sort of diabolical crossword, then the numbered squares could give you an anagram. However that wouldn't make use of the colours, which give it the feel of a tetris game.
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On the word idea....

I looked up obfuscare on google since I had no idea what it means.

The following is what I found
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# This verb doesn't have a specific meaning related to computing, though it does seem to apply to a lot of computer jargon. It means "to deliberately make something unclear or difficult to understand, by making use of unfamiliar terminology". Which is precisely the reason why we have a Glossary on our web site.
www.saol.com/glossary.asp

# make obscure or unclear
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# Obfuscated code is source code that is (perhaps intentionally) very hard to read and understand. Some languages are more prone to obfuscation than others. C, C++ and Perl are most often cited as easily obfuscatable languages. Macro preprocessors are often used to create hard to read code by masking the standard language syntax and grammar from the main body of code. The term shrouded code has also been used.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obfuscate

So I think that this word alone is a computer related obscureing hint related to the picture/message we might have to reveal.


Right I think looking and reading the wiki about obfuscare code. This is an avenue that need lots of investigation. Will have to wait till tomorrow gettin tired!
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I did what I could with my eyes, a jpeg of the card, and MSPaint. Very Happy

Something in me knew I should have differentiated purples, but the darker green had me the same way. Ah well; it's a quick fix, for anyone with the time.

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forget it bad assumtion on my part

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