Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
  

The time now is Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:19 am
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)		 View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: Perplex City » PXC: General/Updates
[PPM] Organized Search Effort (1st run 267+8 over; new soon)
View previous topicView next topic
Page 9 of 9 [125 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 7, 8, 9
Author Message
eeeqz
Veteran


Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 104
Location: Leics/Kingston upon Thames

 		Cool ok, i'll start another topic for the Puzzle marathon (instructions over there Sentinel Smile)
_________________
Quot Homines Tot Sententiae...
Proud member of the Caine Johannson Dream Team Fan Club
http://www.perplexcitytrades.com/eeeqz

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:46 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
cassandra
Entrenched


Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 831

 		didn't see this one noted: found Miranda Miranda at 506 or thereabouts.

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:00 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
BrianEnigma
Entrenched


Joined: 05 Oct 2003
Posts: 1199
Location: Pacific Northwest
perplexed wrote:
who's doing what pages?
and were is briengima? He's my favourite techie for searching through internet sites using a home made program


I'm here! I'm just not always at a computer over the weekend. (*gasp*) I think I ended up doing what Scott(?) did--basically grabbing a local copy of the site using the wonderful tool wget. Either Scott has a faster connection than me or he only grabbed a subset of the site. It looks like it took all weekend and I ended up with 1.3G of files that I am now in the process of compressing.

At this point, I am not 100% sure how useful such a mirror is, but it should be pretty easy to convert that to either SQL queries (which, skimming the 9 pages of replies, I think has already been done) or a bunch of datastructures.

At this point, I think there are two questions that we will need to figure out answers to:

1. Is the UID unique to a specific person globally, or is it tied to a person and year.
2. Did Miranda use the name Miranda (or her new alias), or did she use some other name that we are not privy to?

If the second question is false (i.e. Miranda used some name we don't know), then our manual distribued search effort is all for naught and a pure datamining effort needs to be made. Unfortunately, we have no idea what the answer to that question is, so it's good that people are skimming the data.

The first question should be pretty easy to answer once everything is database-ized. It is highly likely that people will run in successive years. If there are any UIDs that appear in two years (basically, a simple two-table join, or I guess technically a table-to-itself join), then we know the answer and it'll be easy to pull up all duplicates (or triplicates?) and check them by hand.

If the UIDs are totally unique (i.e. a combination of name+year or something), then things get a bit more tricky. At that point, we have to start matching by name because there will be no other unique value. In order to get the names, we either need OCR software or we need a million monkeys on a million typewriters. Well, not a million, but we will probably have to set up some sort of CAPCHA-like web system. Someone can come to the page, will be presented with the picture of someone's name and they can type that name into a form field, which saves it back to the database. We'd still have to deal with data entry errors, but that would be a semi-automated way to make it work.

So, yeah, I guess the big question is: how unique are the unique IDs?
_________________
Y0 Resources / VP Wiki / PXC Catalog / Metacortex

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:56 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
doublecross
Unfettered


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 588
Location: London, UK

 		I would think it unlikely that the UIDs are the same for the same person in different years. But that's not so bad once databasized - extract first+last+year+uid, sort by first+last+year, note any where there are two consecutive first+last the same, and there you are. Or am I just showing my ignorance of what Bri was talking about?
_________________
xx

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:09 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
BrianEnigma
Entrenched


Joined: 05 Oct 2003
Posts: 1199
Location: Pacific Northwest
doublecross wrote:
I would think it unlikely that the UIDs are the same for the same person in different years. But that's not so bad once databasized - extract first+last+year+uid, sort by first+last+year, note any where there are two consecutive first+last the same, and there you are. Or am I just showing my ignorance of what Bri was talking about?


You basically have it--except that the first/last name is not currently in an easily-parsable format. Right now, it just exists as an image of the name and converting the name-picture into name-text may not be a trivial operation. On the other hand, it looks like maybe Sasuntsi Davit has managed to narrow down the possibilities by looking at metadata other than the name (using age and race time.)
_________________
Y0 Resources / VP Wiki / PXC Catalog / Metacortex

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:42 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 9 of 9 [125 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 7, 8, 9
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: Perplex City » PXC: General/Updates
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group