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[aericwolf90]

Entropy anagram?

[DJ FreeMason]

I have to agree that the wording of the hint "If entropy wins, outward looks should leave you cold." is odd. Maybe I've been doing too many of them recently and it's starting to affect my thinking, but what about if the hint a cryptic crossword style clue?

Leave can be an anagrammatic clue. Cold could be the definition of the thing we're trying to find, with "If entropy wins, outward looks should," being the anagrammed answer.

Alternatively, entropy itself could be an abbreviation (s), cold the anagram indicator, leave an indirect reference to left, a reversal indicator, and outward looks being the clue.

I've been doing them for a couple of months now but it was a weird idea I had. I looked through the Wiki and the 43 pages and didn't see anyone suggest it.

[pheebs]

could
http://textfiles.group.lt/drugs/leary001.txt
be useful at all?!

apologies if this HAS been mentioned before, i did search and nothing came up.

[pheebs]

a comment on the film Crash, which may also lead us somewhere, indirectly?

was quite moved when i saw the film yesterday. made me think that the binary constructions upon which (some?) human relations are built (race, language, sex, age etc. etc.) creates such a loneliness. and i wonder if that is just the product of the human condition: being secluded from each other in bodies; OR, is it a product of a widespread sense of needing to acheive something permanent in life and submiting to the false sensation of acheivement we get in competing with another ? if it is caused by the bodied quality of life then i'd suggest to myself to stop being so worried about the lonely quality of life. but, if the loneliness is from these constructions and not a product of a widespread nature, then we have a little more ability to change.

what do we mean by loneliness? missing "a sense of touch." it's not, i don't think, about understanding each other, being unable to convey what is inside to the outside, a faulty-commerce between the two, a faulty-communication system; it's a more basic lacking, i think. i don't need my internal life to be understood, to be accurately spoken, but i need to be valued by externals, i do not have a strong enough gravity pull within to hold me together.entropy eventually wins. but, my life is an apx. 85-year-stint against entropy. i don't need to acheive, don't need to beat entropy, but, when i am in life, i need all the help i can get from externals. and the only external that does not pull outward are other people. it's about touch. a sense of holding each other together as individuals and in relation with each other. it's about the feeling of being orphans and needing to pull each other up and out of unquenching water (as opposed to the prayer from a land of wasted human realtions, which so basically, lacks the , the caress : "Lord, thou pluckest me out."

[Austin]

To everybody else (about pheebs) -

[Juxta]

10 Go to Google
20 Input "If entropy wins, outward looks should leave you cold"
30 Copy
40 Paste


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I'm glad that in the previous fifty-two PAGES of discussion about this card that nobody had thought to do just that. Really.

Just...wow.

J

[Austin]

On the more serious subject of the puzzle,

I would like to put my theory forward (not covered so far in here or in the wiki).

The statement "If entropy wins, outward looks should leave you cold" would suggest to me :

If Garnet was given a shuffled deck (from the card title),

a) If entropy wins, the deck is totally random.
b) If entropy loses, this would leave parts of the deck in a recognisable order.

If this is correct,

either - Garnet would be observant enough to spot a pattern in the cards laid out on the table if a pattern was there, i.e. (b) was true.

or - Garnet does not spot a pattern i.e. (a) was true. He does however know that he might have seen it (had entropy lost) which implies that there had been a pattern before the shuffle.

So - whether or not Garnet can work out the deck order from the cards on the table, he should know that it could have been calculated if there had been a badly shuffled deck.

I have tried to check all the well known full deck stacks (Si Stebbins etc)and variations but if I am right I need to know which bit of code to
decipher.

Just to throw another spanner into the works, shouldnt we have a multiple of 5 characters for solitaire (unless we want to encrypt rather than decrypt our text to get the answer?).

[pheebs]

eh? i dont get you...

[DJ FreeMason]

Actually, Austin, with Solitaire, it doesn't have to be multiples of five for the clear text. The cyphertext just looks more uniform if there are multiples of five for it. The keyword definitely doesn't have to have multiples of five letters. That would severely limit the number of possible keys.

[Mecha Angel]

Has anyone noticed on the middle of the pack it appears to be a compass that point just before 45 degrees? Maybe the number is the key for solitaire? Remember its just before 45, not actually 45. Also, if it is true, all props go to me...

[unrealt87]

[Joe_the_OOF]

Is there really a "Garnet"??

[UKver2.0]

Re: Is there really a "Garnet"??

[DJ FreeMason]

I didn't read this in the Wiki or when I skimmed through the old thread so I am stating it.

We know that Garnet did say that Sente was involved. That's a given. However, on Anna Heath's webpage, it says that Sente took the top prize at the Acadamy's first-years' prank tournament. He cracked the security system and set it to go off whenever the Master or a Senior Fellow came near the gatehouse.
http://www.perplexcityacademy.com/ah328451/didyouknow.html

Is it possible that Sente wasn't involved directly and that the people who did break into the Academy used the crack Sente created when he was a first year? If the idea that the passphrase for the disappearing letters is the same as the base message, then something like SENTEMADETHEPASSWORD for the disappearing letters would implicate Sente and Garnet wouldn't be wrong that he was involved.

[wack_zitt]

outward looks