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aliendial

Well I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that while there may not be 10k different puzzles of each type, there are a lot of different ones. I think that poster is wrong. If we failed a puzzle during the competition, it would reset as the SAME puzzle. Only if you backed out entirely and started over could you get a completely new one. (I assume that there were only so many "new" ones available, but certainly enough to not make it worth our while to try to collaborate on individual sudokus, for example.)

For the final puzzle, NO BACKING OUT ENTIRELY because that presumably would disqualify you. So you are forced to stay in the game and keep playing the same setup. Gotta play the hand you are dealt.

Now the chess puzzle was always different because the trivia questions were always the same for everyone. There was no need to back out of the game and start over and get new questions. All you needed was the answers. I don't know if there were a variety of chess boards or just one board that everyone got, so don't know if there was a potential benefit there of trying to get a new problem if you were stumped. So it may be that there is a simpler way thru the chess puzzle but that the others will remain as hard (and as different) as they were all along.

edit: one of the googlefact posters specs that maybe the chess puzzle as described offers you choices for each of the three moves (instead of trivia questions) and you get to choose (and brute force) that way. If that's the case we are done unless there are different chess problems in play.

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 2:10 pm

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stonefry · Boot Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 34

Actually, at least for the sudoku, paint splotches, and painting hanging, there was a button to reset the puzzle and a button to get a new puzzle.

I haven't done the final yet, I'm talking about the originals.

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 2:26 pm

Jiroe

Just got this in the ol' email. It looks like they're aware of the discrepencies some people have posted about.

aliendial

That's right - I had forgotten. I never used the "get me a new puzzle" option.

And BTW spec above confirmed, the guy at googlefact explains - there were three questions and the multiple choice answers were four possible chess moves. He and at least one other person both got 2-2-4.

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 2:37 pm

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Jiroe

So there definitely are questions on the chess challenge? Sweet! Looks like we all got a freebie for that puzzle. Smile

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 2:40 pm

stonefry · Boot Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 34

I guess I need to quote the guy, since you don't believe me.

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 3:22 pm

justdig · Boot Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 29

Um, help... I removed my box from the google page. Any way to get it back?

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 4:06 pm

rowan · Unfictologist Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 1966

For the chess: I know that in the previous versions, while the answers to each individual answer stayed the same, their positions would vary each time the puzzle reset. So the first time the answers might be "apple fish dog cat" and the next time it would be "cat apple fish dog" - so you actually had to pay attention rather than just clicking the numbers.

The fact that two people happened to get the same combo of 2-2-4 is just a quirk due to the fact that there really aren't *that* many combinations you can have.

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 4:43 pm

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stonefry, all that quote means is that the only way to properly pick the correct answers was to know how to play chess. However with the multiple choice option on the chess moves you don't have to know. If the problem is the same for everyone we have the answers. If there is more than one problem, the answer can be brute-forced.

Or you can always play it out on the board.

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**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 4:51 pm

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**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 5:18 pm

aliendial

And so it turns out our bane will be - gah! - the scratchy pictures. Some will be lucky and get the solve quickly. Others will paw at it until it suddenly magically solves itself. Sigh.

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 6:37 pm

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Let me just note that for solving and posting info the googlefact crew have us beat hands down. We are slowing down. Kudos to them, and go vote for their mod's dog as cutest (see their blog)!

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 6:39 pm

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stonefry · Boot Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 34

If anybody hasn't done it yet, I have a solution for the splotch puzzle. send an e-mail to chambers100SPLATgmail.com if you would like to have it. and don't use firefox, I think it causes a problem when doin the jigsaw.

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 8:21 pm

Joe

has it been the same for everybody? I'm gonna wait till I get home from work tomorrow to enter anyways.. my mind is far too gone after work today to even think about puzzles..

and the jigsaw puzzles images change? I love doing those! Smile

(there's a neopets game that does the same thing)

**Posted:** Fri May 19, 2006 11:41 pm

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ryanender · Kilroy Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 1

Finished in a little over 1 hour...

**Posted:** Sat May 20, 2006 12:09 am