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Lucent
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 		Edit: Fah! Nevermind, I had opened the wrong file on accident >.<

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:47 am
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 		[OOG]? probably, but take a look
I have been looking into the file name Q9als2002. I knew I had seen ALS as an acronym for something. Then I remembered. Artificial Life Support. So I gooled (Q9 "artificial life support" 2002). There wasn't much.
The top hit is about a push poll done on the Terry Schaivo case. Question 9 of this poll was "Suppose you were in a coma with no brain activity and were being kept alive by a feeding tube. Would you want your doctor to remove the feeding tube and let you die, or not?"

The next couple of hits were from some bioethics board. The interesting point is that the links to the PDFs are titled "Are you surprised?"
I must point out that while the following is interesting, given the theorys being thrown about, the two PDFs are from 2000 and 2003. However the 2003 PDF is a discussion of 2002.
Question 9 from 2000 was "What is cloning?"
Question 9 from 2003 was "Do you think that removing an organ from BD is mutilation?" (BD=Brain-dead)

I just thought it was an interesting tie in to the cloning for organs/missing organs theme.

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:25 am
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StevenR
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IcedMetal wrote:
Has anyone noticed the weirdness when you view the Internet history file of hole2.thehansofoundation.org? When you hold the mouse over the file, it keeps displaying different things: sometimes odd characters, sometimes 'browseui', and just now, after viewing it again, it changed to 'Peter'.

EDIT: Also just seen 'jccatch'.

Is this normal??

EDIT2: Scrub that last one, looks like it has something to do with Jet Car download client.


This only appears to happen in Internet Explorer (it doesn't happen in Firefox for me). After checking in IE, it appears to be an IE bug that occurs with a page like this one which has no HTML, HEAD, or TITLE tags. Sometimes it displays bits of the titles of other pages in the history, including local pages. I've been able to reproduce the same effect with my own pages.

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:41 pm
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 		Re: [OOG]? probably, but take a look
August wrote:
I have been looking into the file name Q9als2002. I knew I had seen ALS as an acronym for something. Then I remembered. Artificial Life Support. So I gooled (Q9 "artificial life support" 2002). There wasn't much.
The top hit is about a push poll done on the Terry Schaivo case. Question 9 of this poll was "Suppose you were in a coma with no brain activity and were being kept alive by a feeding tube. Would you want your doctor to remove the feeding tube and let you die, or not?".


Wow. thats the most promising find I've seen yet. We just need something else to confirm that that is the right answer. Woot!

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 		Re: [OOG]? probably, but take a look
August wrote:
I have been looking into the file name Q9als2002. I knew I had seen ALS as an acronym for something. Then I remembered. Artificial Life Support. So I gooled (Q9 "artificial life support" 2002). There wasn't much.
The top hit is about a push poll done on the Terry Schaivo case. Question 9 of this poll was "Suppose you were in a coma with no brain activity and were being kept alive by a feeding tube. Would you want your doctor to remove the feeding tube and let you die, or not?"


Can you post the link to the site where you read that?
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:00 pm
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 		q9als2002...?
Hello there...i'm new to this board but have been reading the posts from last night.

I googled "q9 aritificial life support 2002" and received some other interesting information. No.1 hit was the Shiavo case, no.2 was an islamic site, so thought i'd look, and question 9 is : 9. "Organ donation is permitted with some guidelines and encouraged." This was, however, a point rather than a question. Hit no 6, from what looks like some type of college paper on "Making Choices, Diversity and Bioethics" (link: this CACHED webpage), question 9 reads "Q9. Does it change your opinion of chimpanzees to know there are less than 100 genes different between them and humans? " which, to me anyway, could fit right into our theme.

Comments? Questions? Help me? lol


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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:29 pm
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 		Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), often referred to as "Lou Gehrig's disease," is a progressive neurodegenerative disease that affects nerve cells in the brain and the spinal cord. Motor neurons reach from the brain to the spinal cord and from the spinal cord to the muscles throughout the body...The progressive degeneration of the motor neurons in ALS eventually lead to their death.

Could be this.....

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:51 pm
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ixalon
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 		Right, the bottom few lines of the image look quite different from the rest of the image (i.e. much more frequent white marks...) If you extract the bottom line and extrapolate it, you get what looks very much like a bar code especially on the right. However it doesn't seem to be a barcode because there are too many widths of bars.

I'm wondering if the horizontal size of either each dark bar, or each white space is encoding the message.

Attached is the image incase anyone else wants to try their luck cos I'm stumped!
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:26 pm
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Eleventeen
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ixalon wrote:
However it doesn't seem to be a barcode because there are too many widths of bars.


I thought earlier that it might be something like a barcode but rejected it out of hand because it'd be pretty hard for even advanced ARG'ers to get their hands on barcode scanners that would dump the raw information.

I still think it's possible that it could be a barcode...I've seen barcodes with as many as 16 different thicknesses, I used to work at a retail store that had a UPS shipping counter, and we used to print really *wide* barcodes to move a package from the customer end of the counter to our sorting cart. Seeing ixalon's attach reminded me of those labels.

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cpasquini
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 		Does anyone know if there are any tools that can convert barcodes to text or vice versa? I saw a few bar code fonts out on the internet (google 'barcode font') but didn't see any that would take a barcode and convert it to text. Maybe Q9 is a method for doing this?

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ixalon
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cpasquini wrote:
Does anyone know if there are any tools that can convert barcodes to text or vice versa? I saw a few bar code fonts out on the internet (google 'barcode font') but didn't see any that would take a barcode and convert it to text. Maybe Q9 is a method for doing this?


There's this:
http://www.tasman.co.uk/bars/readme.html

It can't find anything in either the full image or this one though Sad

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robertblack
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 		maybe a face is just a face...
albeit an incomplete one, with the rest of it coming in another incomplete image for overlay or something

all this speculation about hidden words in fairly normal glare lines and dharma symbols and maps in a for-no-good-reason polarized (or whatever it's called) version of the image seem unnecessary

so far, this game hasn't included anything that complicated, or even close to it

they're catering to cleverness more than serious programming and whatnot knowledge

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GateKeeper
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 		We had a number of barcode related puzzles in AoTH, and I remember finding some pretty good software that would read a barcode from an image and decode it... trying to find that now.

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StevenR
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 		I've used this program before - http://www.bctester.de/en/index.htm. Is that the one you mean? It identified two barcodes in that image taken from the bottom row of pixels. One had a value of 40 and the other had a value of 57. This might just be coincidence.

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Aya
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 		I have a barcode scanner. I can try it out if you want, but Im not sure it will work XD

Edit: Yeah, no go with the barcode scanner. Cool
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