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[SPEC] Liddy Wales (possible season 2 spoiler)
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Season 2 Finale spoiler. Once you get here, I think your Liddy is just a banana.


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Libby is not Penny Widmore (the rich ex-girlfriend of Desmond). But Libby does give Desmond the boat.

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Question for this past season...

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Does the discussion that has Libby offering Desmond the boat take place before or after Libby and Hurley being in the mental institution together? I'm thinking before, meaning that she must have went crazy, or whatever her condition was, at some point shortly after Desmond rides off in the "Elizabeth."

Also, since we're on the discussion of this past season, does the direction bearing given to Michael (I think it was "325") represent a clue?


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Gus Raja wrote:
Question for this past season...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Also, since we're on the discussion of this past season, does the direction bearing given to Michael (I think it was "325") represent a clue?


I mentioned that here
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I don't think this is a forum for discussing the tv show. I was responding to the spec about Liddy Wales being Libby from the island.

Hugh McIntyre's appearence on Jimmy Kimmel seems to be a means of distancing the game from the tv show. In other words, people who work for, referenced by, or are in some way associated with the Hanso Foundation and the Lost Experience are suppose to be "real". The Hanso Foundation acknowledges that the tv show "Lost" exists as a tv show. And what is shown on the tv show is "fiction" and therefor not "real". Huge is trying to say that while there may have been a real plane crash, anything that is shown on tv is from the minds of the tv show writers. The only crossover is supposedly Gary Troupe - the author of "Bad Twin" is alleged to have died on Oceanic 815. Since we never see him on the tv show, that can totally fit into the mythology of the Lost Experience.

There are plenty of forums just for discussing the tv show and speculation about where, when, who, how and what within the fictional universe of "Lost".
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PillarNumber7 wrote:
Gus Raja wrote:
Question for this past season...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Also, since we're on the discussion of this past season, does the direction bearing given to Michael (I think it was "325") represent a clue?


I mentioned that here



Thanks.

The sad part is we're both asking the same question and yet we still have no answer. Maybe this is a job for MapQuest, or do they only cover the U.S.?

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Libby=Liddy?

Hogwash. I'll spoiler all of this incase you haven't seen the finale yet
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There have been no actual LOST characters in the ARG, none. They are completely seperate. Even Widmore hasn't shown up in the ARG yet. McIntyre on JKL last night even seperated HANSO from the TV show. They are two different worlds, this one is just built on the mythology of the TV show. Just like any other ARG based on a TV show. (see Alias:Ominfam). This one just happens to be a commercial tie in for ABC.

Now who said that Libby gave Desmond 200,000? That's just not true and I have no idea where you came up with that. She gave him a boat, named Elizabeth. When they were in line for coffee, he asked her for $42,000, jokingly. $200,000 never came up. It's never even been said in the show that Libby was wealthy. She was a shrink, and her husband had a boat, that's it. Besides, the show and ARG aren't interconnected in any way shape or form.


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Re: Libby=Liddy?

cnote1500 wrote:
Hogwash. I'll spoiler all of this incase you haven't seen the finale yet
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
There have been no actual LOST characters in the ARG, none. They are completely seperate. Even Widmore hasn't shown up in the ARG yet. McIntyre on JKL last night even seperated HANSO from the TV show. They are two different worlds, this one is just built on the mythology of the TV show. Just like any other ARG based on a TV show. (see Alias:Ominfam). This one just happens to be a commercial tie in for ABC.

Now who said that Libby gave Desmond 200,000? That's just not true and I have no idea where you came up with that. She gave him a boat, named Elizabeth. When they were in line for coffee, he asked her for $42,000, jokingly. $200,000 never came up. It's never even been said in the show that Libby was wealthy. She was a shrink, and her husband had a boat, that's it. Besides, the show and ARG aren't interconnected in any way shape or form.


...ok, i'm done ranting now. Evil or Very Mad


The $200,000 proposition was spec. Yes, it's easy to look back at spec at laugh afterwards, but at the time, we had no idea what could happen. Spec is basically free territory... no one can know what will occur, hence we make guesses. Most of the time, these guesses are wrong. But that doesn't mean you should have an excuse to bash the poster's thoughts.

Note the [SPEC] tag in the title. It's there for a reason.
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Re: Libby=Liddy?

cnote1500 wrote:
Hogwash. I'll spoiler all of this incase you haven't seen the finale yet
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
There have been no actual LOST characters in the ARG, none. They are completely seperate. Even Widmore hasn't shown up in the ARG yet. McIntyre on JKL last night even seperated HANSO from the TV show. They are two different worlds, this one is just built on the mythology of the TV show. Just like any other ARG based on a TV show. (see Alias:Ominfam). This one just happens to be a commercial tie in for ABC.

Now who said that Libby gave Desmond 200,000? That's just not true and I have no idea where you came up with that. She gave him a boat, named Elizabeth. When they were in line for coffee, he asked her for $42,000, jokingly. $200,000 never came up. It's never even been said in the show that Libby was wealthy. She was a shrink, and her husband had a boat, that's it. Besides, the show and ARG aren't interconnected in any way shape or form.


...ok, i'm done ranting now. Evil or Very Mad


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While I agree that directly, the show and the ARG aren't entirely connected. To be extremely close minded like that is rather foolhearty. ABC is obiviously hyping up the Lost and the Hanso connection as well. While yes , as some of us saw on Jimmy Kimmel, a backstory of universes has been created (we think), but to completely and utterly dismiss the show's impact on this arg is less then advisible.

Case and point, the numbers, we've seen them on the show all to often. We've had several examples in this ARG where they show up. If the two were completely seperate, we clearly would have been in the dark about this. When the flash was decompiled, We saw a very Locke like image over Hanso. A stretch on a guess no less, but valid? Perhaps. I agree with you that the two can be completely uninterconnected and still operate effeciently with out eachother.But from what we have seen, I don't think you can completely rule out with 100% certainity that down the road, we will not see more Lost related elements, possible even characters. But Lost has been, and will be, a show that rewards people who dig deep. From the whispers, to the shark. What makes you think that this will be any different by end game?


Thats just my view -rantmode off

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Re: Libby=Liddy?

cnote1500 wrote:
Hogwash. I'll spoiler all of this incase you haven't seen the finale yet
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
...There have been no actual LOST characters in the ARG, none. They are completely seperate. Even Widmore hasn't shown up in the ARG yet...


...ok, i'm done ranting now. Evil or Very Mad


As of tonight
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Widmore is officially In Game.


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What if the show LOST really did hold clues to THF? Well, if it did then I'd have to think Hugh McIntrye might purposely try to throw us off by disassociating the two.

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TV Show/ARG Connection...

Good point, Gus, that perhaps they don't want us to believe the show because it does hold clues to their organization.

Aren't HANSO's commercials being aired during the show? They lead directly to the ARG.

Aren't they also saying they don't want us to believe what's written in "Bad Twin"? That it is fiction? And "Bad Twin"/Gary Troup is definitely in game.
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On another track, I was wondering something, and this thread seems to be the best place to pose the question, since it seems to be (gasp!) discussing the show...and while I won't mention specifics of the show itself, I'll spoiler it to be safe:

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During Wednesdays finale, did any one notice something strange going on during the shift from the show itself to the commercials? I could have sworn that at least at one point, I saw some subliminal (sublymonal?) text flash on the screen before a commercial appeared. My 14 year old was watching with me and saw something as well. There would be a second-long delay where the screen went blank, followed by a white flash near the top third of the screen, then the commercial would play.

While it could very well be just a bad feed from my local cable company, I have to say, I continued to watch the same channel afterwards, and it didn't happen again. Only during the airing of the show.


Anybody TIVO the show - anyone else notice this? Or am I just getting paranoid? Foily!

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Re: TV Show/ARG Connection...

julian wrote:


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
During Wednesdays finale, did any one notice something strange going on during the shift from the show itself to the commercials? I could have sworn that at least at one point, I saw some subliminal (sublymonal?) text flash on the screen before a commercial appeared. My 14 year old was watching with me and saw something as well. There would be a second-long delay where the screen went blank, followed by a white flash near the top third of the screen, then the commercial would play.

While it could very well be just a bad feed from my local cable company, I have to say, I continued to watch the same channel afterwards, and it didn't happen again. Only during the airing of the show.



I don't recall that, but it certainly sounds like something that can be caught with a frame-by-frame viewing. I never tape the show, but I know some here do. To help keep anyone who might be willing to look into this from having to search the entire show, do you recall which commerical and/or commercial break that it happened on?

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It was towards the end of the first hour that I started noticing the flashes - I was watching the commercials intently, to see if the Hanso ad was on Geek . Perhaps the first commercial break of the second hour was when I thought I saw something textual flash up. But, again, it could have just been a lousy feed from the local station that said the name of the ad...so no one needs to put themselves out for this - it's probably a red herring.

Still, I wonder...I think I read in another thread that persephone's recent message was something to the effect of "you see more when things slow down" (??) (I'd search for the actual quote, but I'm on a dead-slow dial-up modem this weekend - ugh.)

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