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Walt Dixie
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Coelacanth wrote:

Not to offend any of you folks out there who may be studing in this field, but comparative religion and Lacanian psychology both stand out as strange amongst a list of otherwise highly scientific/technical fields.

Edit: An interesting (and possibly relevant) tidbit about Lacanian Psy. found HERE
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In contrast to the dominant Anglo-American ego-psychologists of his time, Lacan considered the self as something constituted in the "Other", that is, the conception of the external. ( my emphasis)
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Lacan is considered to be the orphan son of Freud's psychoanalysis. Psychoanalysts of all kinds are inspired on Lacan, and this is why they are considered somewhat out-of-the-box of traditional science.

Comparative religion, like comparative philosophy, is also a very pseudo-professional practice.
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Obes
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 		Wasn't Lacan the theorist that said that a baby doesn't acknowledge itself as an entity until it sees either its reflection in a mirror, or the reflection of its actions in others?

The 'Other' is basically everything that is not the dominant. To identity development, the Other is everything that is not you; and you define what you are by knowing what you are not. Usually when you say 'the Other', you're referring to those that are subservient to the dominant of society; in the case of western society, White Heterosexual Males are the dominant, and everthing else is the Other.

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ivez
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Gus Raja wrote:
Dharma appears to be an actual term associated with genetics. Here's some links to get an idea of what I'm talking about...

Dharma = zebrafish homeobox gene

I also found this quote from a different page...

"The zebrafish bozozok locus encodes Dharma, a homeodomain protein essential for induction of the gastrula organizer and dorsoanterior embryonic structures."

We can really use a doctor of genetics or biotechnology to help us understand this stuff.


Okay, I can do that. I did gene annotation (description) for a living. =)

"Dharma" is not a genetic term. Genes get named by the first person to publish them. Probably, the person who found "dharma" liked Hinduism.

Lots of genes have whimsical names. For example, "cheap date" and "scruin" (say it out loud, it's expressed in sperm), are also gene names. They are likewise not important bio terms.

Also, people keep bringing up in vitro. That term is so common in biomedicine that I can't imagine it being relevant. It just means "in a dish" as opposed to in vivo which means "in a living system". To give some perspective--the words In vitro appear in 10 times as many biology papers as the word "blue". Hundreds of thousands of papers. Looking for meaning in that phrase is like saying "i keep seeing the word 'the'. think it means anything?"

Good luck hunting everyone!

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Gus Raja
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ivez wrote:
Gus Raja wrote:
Dharma appears to be an actual term associated with genetics. Here's some links to get an idea of what I'm talking about...

Dharma = zebrafish homeobox gene

I also found this quote from a different page...

"The zebrafish bozozok locus encodes Dharma, a homeodomain protein essential for induction of the gastrula organizer and dorsoanterior embryonic structures."

We can really use a doctor of genetics or biotechnology to help us understand this stuff.


Okay, I can do that. I did gene annotation (description) for a living. =)

"Dharma" is not a genetic term. Genes get named by the first person to publish them. Probably, the person who found "dharma" liked Hinduism.

Lots of genes have whimsical names. For example, "cheap date" and "scruin" (say it out loud, it's expressed in sperm), are also gene names. They are likewise not important bio terms.

Also, people keep bringing up in vitro. That term is so common in biomedicine that I can't imagine it being relevant. It just means "in a dish" as opposed to in vivo which means "in a living system". To give some perspective--the words In vitro appear in 10 times as many biology papers as the word "blue". Hundreds of thousands of papers. Looking for meaning in that phrase is like saying "i keep seeing the word 'the'. think it means anything?"

Good luck hunting everyone!



Thanks for the explanations. As for as "in vitro" as a clue, well certainly not by itself, but it's still potential clue combined with other words. I previously brought up how "Survivor Guilt" is also an anagram for "In Vitro Virus" with the letters "glu" left over. Other combinations of the those final three letter yield nothing, but glu is a protein and/or amino acid used in a process called "In vitro virus." I'm guessing that simply means "virus made in a dish," but perhaps there is a specific virus that utlilizes "glu." You have to admit that "in virtro virus" is definitely a biological term, and that THF is very much into this particular branch of science. You also have to admit that THF is constantly using anagrams as clues in this ARG, and that if you look at this particular phrase there are no other possible anagrams (except for maybe a Latin phrase given some of the letters used if that were even possible to figure out).

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jere7my
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Gus Raja wrote:
As for as "in vitro" as a clue, well certainly not by itself, but it's still potential clue combined with other words. I previously brought up how "Survivor Guilt" is also an anagram for "In Vitro Virus" with the letters "glu" left over.


Actually, it's an anagram for "VITRO VIRUS GLU." You need to add the "IN" in.

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Obes wrote:
Wasn't Lacan the theorist that said that a baby doesn't acknowledge itself as an entity until it sees either its reflection in a mirror, or the reflection of its actions in others?

The 'Other' is basically everything that is not the dominant. To identity development, the Other is everything that is not you; and you define what you are by knowing what you are not. Usually when you say 'the Other', you're referring to those that are subservient to the dominant of society; in the case of western society, White Heterosexual Males are the dominant, and everthing else is the Other.

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Regarding the Mirror Stage, close enough...
Regarding the other/Other: In Lacan's work there are two common senses of other; the little other and the big Other. The little other is usually understood to be a refelction/projection of the subject's ego and exists in the imaginary order. By contrast, the big Other is a radical alterity related to language and law, thus it is defined by/defined as the symbolic order (that is, it is both another subject, as well as being that which mediates the subject's relationship to another subject.

I doubt this has any real relevance to the ARG, but it might be useful towards understanding the writer's intentions with regard to the 'Others' on the island.

Oh yeah, re: 'in vitro virus', I doubt there is much to be considering about an anagram solve that requires you to subtract three letters and then add two extraneous ones. It just doesn't make sense as an anagram.

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Gus Raja
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jere7my wrote:
Gus Raja wrote:
As for as "in vitro" as a clue, well certainly not by itself, but it's still potential clue combined with other words. I previously brought up how "Survivor Guilt" is also an anagram for "In Vitro Virus" with the letters "glu" left over.


Actually, it's an anagram for "VITRO VIRUS GLU." You need to add the "IN" in.



Correct. My bad. I just noticed on Google that the term "vitro virus" is always preceded by the word "in."

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curiouswife
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 		Gus Raja:
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As for as "in vitro" as a clue, well certainly not by itself, but it's still potential clue combined with other words. I previously brought up how "Survivor Guilt" is also an anagram for "In Vitro Virus" with the letters "glu" left over.


'Glu' can be either glutamine - one of the four bases used in all genetic code, or simply glucose, but somehow I think the whole thing is a red herring.
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jenanonymous
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 		the letters
It seems like I'm at the same place in the game as you guys. I like the 'Asylum Inmate' theory because obviously the capitalization fits. However, for the fun of it I'll give you guys my favorite.

A males mutIny.

You guys are probably right though.

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Abraxas
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