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[NEW] dina.thenekodas.com and ethan.thenekodas.com
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critter42
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mulder wrote:
http://ethan.thenekodas.com/index.rdf

what is this about?


Moveable Type is software for blogging (weblogging). As part of the newer versions of MT, it has the ability for the blogs to be distributed via RSS (RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, RDF Syndication Service, or Rich Site Summary, depending on who you ask Smile ). These "articles" published by MT can be picked up by "RSS Feed Aggregators" (I use FeedDemon). the "index.rdf" file here (and on paintover.net) is just the URL used by the Aggregators to get the latest article.

There is nothing unusual about having these syndication feeds available; In fact, I daresay it would be MORE unusual NOT to have them available with MT blogs nowadays.

(the nice thing about them in terms of the game is that I don't have to have any kind of home-brew shell script running to check to see when the different sites have updated. For the RSS-enabled sites I just plug 'em into my feed reader, and set them to check for updates every 5 minutes or so. As soon as a new "article" is published on the sites, I not only have the information that the content has been updated, I have the actual updated content as well)


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:14 pm
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DisappearingBoy
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Anybody think it odd that Dina has not done the 10/18/2003 or 10/25/2003 Lessons from Leiphe.net? The other lessons are done either 4 days or the same day that the lesson is posted on Leiphe.net.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:00 pm
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Marauder
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The street sign definitely seems to say Ohio...

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Marl64
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Varin wrote:
Unfortunately I just made my trip through Chicago for the month last weekend so I won't be going through again for at least two weeks. If we think this is still important and is still unsolved by then I'll bring along my camera and try to find this spot.


The way this game goes, in two weeks it probably will still be relevant. Very Happy
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DisappearingBoy wrote:
Anybody think it odd that Dina has not done the 10/18/2003 or 10/25/2003 Lessons from Leiphe.net? The other lessons are done either 4 days or the same day that the lesson is posted on Leiphe.net.


Here is Dina's publishing pattern for the Leiphe Lessons:
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Lesson September 20, 2003 Dina publishes on September 20, 2003

Lesson September 27, 2003 Dina publishes on September 27, 2003

Lesson October 4, 2003 Dina publishes on October 8, 2003

Lesson October 11, 2003 Dina publishes on October 15, 2003

Lesson October 18, 2003 Dina does not publish hers.
On October 18, 2003 Dina publishes "pulling back"

Lesson October 25, 2003 ...


My thinking is that Dina started to feel vunerable having her mp3s out in the world, and became self-concious about publishing her Lessons on the web.

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mulder
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critter42 wrote:
mulder wrote:
http://ethan.thenekodas.com/index.rdf

what is this about?


Moveable Type is software for blogging (weblogging). As part of the newer versions of MT, it has the ability for the blogs to be distributed via RSS (RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, RDF Syndication Service, or Rich Site Summary, depending on who you ask Smile ). These "articles" published by MT can be picked up by "RSS Feed Aggregators" (I use FeedDemon). the "index.rdf" file here (and on paintover.net) is just the URL used by the Aggregators to get the latest article.

There is nothing unusual about having these syndication feeds available; In fact, I daresay it would be MORE unusual NOT to have them available with MT blogs nowadays.

(the nice thing about them in terms of the game is that I don't have to have any kind of home-brew shell script running to check to see when the different sites have updated. For the RSS-enabled sites I just plug 'em into my feed reader, and set them to check for updates every 5 minutes or so. As soon as a new "article" is published on the sites, I not only have the information that the content has been updated, I have the actual updated content as well)


critter42


Would you agree with me that Dina is not just a final user, or in other terms, a "normal Blogger"? I'm no computer wiz, but I've worked with HTML ASP and other stuff for some time... and Pearl it's definetly no every day language... either she works with that or she is a BIG enthusiast... or even a... HACKER???

just some thoughts...
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I'm no computer wiz, but I've worked with HTML ASP and other stuff for some time... and Pearl it's definetly no every day language... either she works with that or she is a BIG enthusiast... or even a... HACKER???


I'm not sure I would say familiarity with a few programming languages makes you hacker. Especially nowadays, when you get the equivalent of a CS degree with 100 bucks worth of For Dummies manuals.

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AdrenalinDave
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Matrix Building?

Guys the second building photo ethans posts looks like that of the one where Morpheus gets captured. Solid Concrete building with a huge glass window to which Neo lays down hell

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Ahriman
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"Would you agree with me that Dina is not just a final user, or in other terms, a "normal Blogger"? I'm no computer wiz, but I've worked with HTML ASP and other stuff for some time... and Pearl it's definetly no every day language... either she works with that or she is a BIG enthusiast... or even a... HACKER???"

I must admit that something she said in one of her lessons made me think..."I like routines, in a way, analyzing them. Finding patterns, and then breaking them. I find that I can breathe easier when I can trick the world into thinking I am doing one thing, when I suddenly go random. " I was just reading the transcripts of the hacker conversations, and I wonder at the relevance of her choice of words, "...suddenly I go random" - could this be .ypt?

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Marl64
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mulder wrote:
... and Pearl it's definetly no every day language...


Really? Oh, I'd better stop using it then Very Happy

It's a very good language for processing lists, word froms etc. and for things like regex searches.

Regular Expressions are native in Perl, unlike some of the more "trendy" scripting languages.
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DigitalFuzi0n
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Not sure if this could be important or not, but in her newest "Turning and Turning" entry she completes the newest Leiphe Lessons. This struck me as odd.

4. How do you feel when you accomplish your goals?

I guess I am always grateful and pleased to get to the nnext day, happy and fulfiilled, and loved. Sometimes I feel pushed to create more ggoals, because there's this niggling thoughht in the back of my mind that there's something more, something missing. Maybe itt's just me.

The following words have repeated letters in them that shouldn't be there:
nnext, fulfiilled, ggoals, thoughht, and itt's.

When you add the missing letters together you get NIGHT. Relevant maybe?



EDIT: colin in #matrix thought to try http://dina.thenekodas.com/night.html and it worked. The text is creepy, but maybe it's another clue?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:48 am
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[TrIpLe]
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Well done to colin@#matrix for finding that!

Now, as most of the people who are in #matrix have found, upon viewing the source, we see that there is some text commented out. In this order (without the text around it):

<!-- redline -->
<!-- orangeline -->
<!-- brownline -->
<!-- greenline -->
<!-- purpleline -->

I've had about 5 minutes thought about it, and a few things that came to mind is that the colors are in spectral order except for the brown. And for those that have done a few IQ tests, you will remember that some questions are worded like this: "Which of the following does not fit?" or something like that. This would be the brown. Long shot maybe?

Also, from the text, we see get the following line:

"He's got that blankness that matches my slate..."

Now, whether or not we know who 'he' is, that wasn't what caught my eye. It was the word 'slate', being that the black and white background of this page is called 'slate.jpg' which has a heart _scratch_ed (first word that came to mind) into it. Is there a hidden clue in the background?

[edit] does this continue on in the puzzles forum, if its anything at all that is?

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Omnie
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Wow. And suddenly the Dina=ex-Mrs. Avery-and-doesn't-know-it theory carries a lot more weight. She thinks the mysterious blank slate in her mind has secrets from past lives...that may be exactly what it is, just not in the way she thinks.
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There is a mystery here, a sonorous thrum beneath it all, a white noise drowning out the something more that must be there.

Man....awesome find.

[Edit] Dare I say it? Yes...is it just me, or does the mysterious man sound an awful lot like an Agent? Very Happy

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DigitalFuzi0n
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Not quite sure if it's a puzzle yet or not. Here are a coupla more things we've come across. First of all the sourcecode of night.html contains some escaped code. <!--redline--><!--orangeline--><!--brownline--><!--greenline--><!--purpleline-->. We then came across this site, which contains yet another mention to the Beatles as well as another mention of Chicago.: http://www.spinelessbooks.com/beatles/beatles_cybertext_take10.html via google. If you do a search for any of the !color codes on that page, you find this text:

Web design standards dictated that we needed a universal means of navigation, and thus were created indexes in which diagetic levels were arranged according to a color scheme translated by Scott Rettberg from the Chicago Transit Authority subway map. In ascending order of verisimilitude the subway lines of The Unknown are Brown for Art ('brownline.htm'), Red for Fiction ('redline.htm'), Purple for Metafiction ('purpleline.htm'), Blue for Documentary ('blueline.htm'), Orange for Correspondence ('orangeline.htm'), and Green for our (real) Live Appearances ('greenline.htm').

One more thing we've noticed is the title of the html document itself. Rather than being "Night", it's "Night.". We've tried multiple file-extensions as well as night.thenekodas.com, but so far nothing's came up.

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Well, as for the colors, I am thinking along the lines of:

Brown for Art: the third last paragraph is a description of a picture?

Red for Fiction: the 2nd paragraph on night.html is fake?

Purple for Metafiction: the last paragraph is part truth, part fiction?

Blue for Documentary: missing color (clue for for something?)

Orange for Correspondence: 3rd paragraph is some kind of correspondence?

Green for Live Appearances: 3rd last para is something that actually happened?

They're just first thought....if someone has something that makes more sense, please feel free to correct me. The first paragraph on night.html doesn't have a color comment attached to it. Does the blue have something to do with that? Not really sure what to make of it, but that all sounded good to me when I thought of it.

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