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Mendax XIII
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Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 27
Metacortech Passwords As MLO has listed (on the memo about Beth) his, Steve Walsh and Beth's employee numbers should we be trying to figure out those passwords or has it already been done?
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:37 am
Omnie
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Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 772
For the record, we also have Dave Regenhardt's, as well as Thomas Anderson's (heh). Didn't someone decompile the flash login and find that there were no valid logins as of then? Has that changed? There's obviously no point in putting effort into it if there are no possible solutions, but maybe they added possible solutions? Sorry, I know the above is kinda slightly behind-the-curtain, but it sure has been helpful...
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:37 pm
Monki
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Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Austin, TX
Beth is my lover Just thinking about it...
Both of Beth's passwords have been band names.... any other bands we can think of she likes?
-Monki
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:36 am
dragonfyre
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Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 3
Except the meta cortex names are more like company user names, and the passwords probably follow that professional attitude, i.e. her pw could be 4R3tg65r99 Until we get something else I don't think pulling passwordsout of thin air is gonna work.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:59 am
ParityBit
Decorated
Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 168 Location: London Above
Well, I have colleagues at my work who always use football related passwords. Unless the system rejects uncomplicated passwords, people will use ones in a similar vein to their others (unless they themselves are security conscious).
So I wouldn't necessarily think that Beth's work password is suddenly going to be a lot different from her other ones - she obviously thinks that her ones on Litte-Boxes and Metadex are secure.
But we have had no 'direct' clue to it yet, and we did with her others.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:34 am
yeahyeah
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Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 282
Last I checked the flash login is still broken, until the Members.txt pops back up, or they change how the login process works, we cant progress on actually gaining acces to accounts. I still think the voicemail is being overlooked, some social engineering may get us somewhere though.. (since we have the account info, and the admins voicemail.....)
Just a thought
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:00 am
Marl64
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Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 456 Location: Prisoner of Zion
yeahyeah wrote:
Last I checked the flash login is still broken, until the Members.txt pops back up, or they change how the login process works, we cant progress on actually gaining acces to accounts. I still think the voicemail is being overlooked, some social engineering may get us somewhere though.. (since we have the account info, and the admins voicemail.....)
Just a thought
It's a really obvious question, and I'm sure you've looked, but I have to ask just to clear it in my mind,
I notice the file reference is relative. There's no code or anything in there to change the default host or directory is there?
Code:
var memberData = this.loadVariables("empdirectory/Members.txt", 0);
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:14 am
AnthraX101
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Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 797
Decompiling flash is usualy "out of bounds" in an ARG.
AnthraX101
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:09 am
edmnc
Boot
Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 10
a bit offtopic ...
Quote:
Decompiling flash is usualy "out of bounds" in an ARG.
I just wanned to comment on this. To me there is no ARG, no game, no rules, no anything. I just found a site - metacortechs.com which evolved into some strangeley interesting storyline that everyone here is trying to uncover. So brute force, decompiiling flash, guessing domain names from the same IP range, using Google for that matter are all the same.
I mean it's not like there is a text at metacortechs.com "OK, here is a game we invented, figure out whats happening, but you can' t use this this and this"
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:24 pm
Giskard
Sassypants
Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 2066 Location: Chicago
Re: Beth is my lover
Monki wrote:
Just thinking about it...
Both of Beth's passwords have been band names.... any other bands we can think of she likes?
-Monki
Well, in any case Dina Nekoda or maybe both of the Nekodas would be a pssibility, and I'm wondering if she could possibly be a fan of Wongmo's music too?
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:34 pm
joebrent
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 640 Location: New York, sometimes
Quote:
I'm wondering if she could possibly be a fan of Wongmo's music too?
Ugh, not another flaky 20-something Seattle area blond with bad taste in music. Somebody get some Motown CD's to Beth, stat.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:40 pm
AcidTWister
Boot
Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 16
you have to ask though, what is gaining access to metacortechs employee side going to give us, though? so far, it's been pretty obvious what we'd get by gaining passwords.
little-boxes = archive access
metadex = an email program. so we'd get access to emails, which we have.
metacortechs = what could it possibly have that would even be slightly relevant?
secondly... we have no evidence her password will follow the trend of the last two. in fact, i'd say we have more evidence that suggests AGAINST it. metadex and little-boxes she got to choose her own user-name. metadechs, she's assigned a number. what do you wanna bet she's been assigned a password, as well?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:30 am
AnthraX101
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Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 797
Assigning passwords is not a good aproach to a secure system. It makes users more likely to write down their passwords, and provides an audit trail when they are notified of the new passwords. Users should set their own passwords to something meaningfull to them, constrained by character requirements.
I would bet that she set her own password.
AnthraX101
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:56 am
Giskard
Sassypants
Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 2066 Location: Chicago
AcidTWister wrote:
you have to ask though, what is gaining access to metacortechs employee side going to give us, though? so far, it's been pretty obvious what we'd get by gaining passwords.
little-boxes = archive access
metadex = an email program. so we'd get access to emails, which we have.
metacortechs = what could it possibly have that would even be slightly relevant?
secondly... we have no evidence her password will follow the trend of the last two. in fact, i'd say we have more evidence that suggests AGAINST it. metadex and little-boxes she got to choose her own user-name. metadechs, she's assigned a number. what do you wanna bet she's been assigned a password, as well?
I'm with Anthrax in saying that the password is probably set by the user itself. As to what it would give access to, what about the company-specific utilities and programs? For example, my company has it's own login-based software system, which gives me access to company news, financial reports, pricing software, management tools, etc.
Remember that although Metadex is made by Metacortechs, it's not a form of internal messaging system, but a system that (when it will be finished) is for customers.
Now, we were told the login is inactive, but this has been found through "hacking" into the Flash file. If we consider this is more or less off limits, I'd say we are not really supposed to know it is inactive, but then I don't understand why it's there (it would have been more logical for it to say something like "out of order" or "under maintenance").
I'm beginning to wonder if the members.txt is really necessary for it to function properly, because since the MLO memo (re)directed our attention to the user ID's, it would be logical if the thing worked and we are supposed to have a go at it...
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:18 pm
katgirl
Boot
Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 17 Location: New Zealand
Quote:
Just thinking about it...
Both of Beth's passwords have been band names.... any other bands we can think of she likes?
-Monki
i reckon she's also a fan of indigo girls
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:49 pm
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