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[the Shaggy (at work)]

Well, nobody in North America has really heard of him, either. While it's kind of a spoiler, it's actually speculation based on some obscure thing that I won't mention, and hasn't even been mentioned on the show in any real capacity.

Is that still a spoiler? :-S

[Strings]

[Jaina]

Why doesn't the page change with the latest clue (Mittlewerk login)? Newsletter login and Joop message both change the page after you found it - with all the lines and creepy music. Did we not discover everything there is to discover there?

[Shaggy (at work)]

I think the Hanso bio page has changed, maybe that's the marker? I know it's for the Hanso message, but... yeah, you have a point.

[curiouswife]

Going back to the topic of where Hanso visited in the north, I think its a bit too far north, but the numbers given on the Electromagnetic Research Initative page, 629291 could also be taken as a map coorordinate which gives us near Joensuu, Finland. An interesting bit of the world.

But we've already found a reason for the numbers, so its probably nothing.

[Gus Raja]

[Abraxas]

Ok, regarding the 2112:

I tried, like Gus Raja said, putting "heir apparent" in the text box on Mittelwerk's page like usual, then watched the clock and it indeed changes to 21:12. Doesn't have to mean something, sure. It's a palindromic number, for instance. Could be something with 2112. Or maybe 21st December.
Same with the 2630 visible down there...probably means absolutetly nothing at all.
Googling numbers is not exactly reliable and I don't want to go on a wild goose change without any further clues.

2112 is a Rush album, yes. It's also a multi-part song. I know that it's "out there", but here are the lyrics.
This is funny:
And the meek shall inherit the earth.
It's a nice song, btw.
Pretty sure this is a dead-end, but anyway.

21st December sounds more plausible, I think.
But there's nothing that comes up with this date.

Most likely it's just another play with numbers.
But note that the clock doesn't change for the other execs...
Oops...that's not correct!

Try the same thing on Thompson's page. The clock changes to 10:39...uh?
The clock definitely does not change on McIntyre's page, though.
I have even fewer ideas for 10:39 or 1039...nope, got nothing.

Oh, by the way...the dates also change.
Mittelwerk: 21:12 4/5/6
Thompson: 10:39 17/5/6

I read that those might be the times when they created the animations.
I think what I forgot to mention above is that those might be just times, really. Nothing else. Whether those times are the creation date of the animations (but then again...why doesn's McIntyre have such a thing?) or something different, that's another story. But I guess you can take the rest of the speculation as a fun diversion, but nothing substantial.

[Gus Raja]

I'm also wondering if these numbers may refer to Bible versus because that's what they look like with the colon between them like that. Why would they have the numbers change like that if it wasn't some kind of clue?

Looking up verses in that include chapter 21, verse 12, I've noted the following...

Job 21:12
They take the timbrel and harp, and rejoice at the sound of the organ.

That was one of 24 possibilities, but it's the only one that seems to represent any semblance of a clue.

Looking up verse 39 in various chapter 10's yields...

Matthew 10:39
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

I thought that sounded interesting. It's almost something Eko might say, and it may relate if they're killing some people to use their organs to save others.

Hebrews 10:39
But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

I can see THF claiming something along these lines. In all I noticed 9 possibilties with this chapter-verse combo, but again these are as close as it gets. Having looked this up, it's probably not related to the Bible.

[ziot]

[ayerlind]

[Gus Raja]

Re: 4th whited-out area in Alvar's bio

[Jalathas]

I'm pretty sure that the white-out just covers what was already there before it showed up. It still says Alvar and such in the same places it used to, but there's a spot on top of it now. Also, the signature is fine, too. The "A" just has 2 lines instead of one, and the "l" is tilted and sticking out the side of the "A".

[lmaner311]

[Gus Raja]

OK, I can see the "Al" now with the "l" starting halfway up the "A," although I'm still very suspicious of the assumed word "Alvar" being whited-out in both of the cases that it's mentioned in the article.

It's always been whited-out, right? I ask because it almost sounds like you're saying you read it just reading Alvar before the white-out was ever added, but I recall the white being there as long as I can remember.