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[SPEC] Jenny Bollinger - Who the What Is She?
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[SPEC] Jenny Bollinger - Who the What Is She?

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Email found that was sent from Jenny Bollinger to Arnold Waterman-King.



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From: Jenny Bollinger


Ok, so Jenny went into some form of rehab and used to do something with Arnold a.k.a. the Devil.

Again I ask "Who is this Jenny Bollinger person in the American Revolution?"
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Could there be an industrial revolution-ish spin in this girl's link - to the "spinning jenny" invented/used to spin cotton into thread in that era...

American history books also mention a famous murder of Jenny McCrea in the same era, by Indians allied with royalist General Burgoyne.

URL HERE

tiny edits - aliendial

BTW, while the edoc site lists the last two hats for which there are no solves (Digital Swallows and Metal Jeff) , they are both out of stock in both colors...

EDIT - shrunkified URL - SG
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Yeah, I thought of Jenny (Jane) McCrea before, and thought if that was the parallel, then she'd be our sacrificial suicide (based on the McCrea history).

However, we didn't have a last name before. Thanks to the email we got, we've been given "Bollinger" for the last name, which "IF" we're following a trend, then Bollinger is going to be a last name connected in some way to the Revolution.

Wikipedia gives me bupkes. (Actually, it gives me Bollinger champagne, which sounds pretty good right now.) Google gives be bubkes. (Though there's apparently a big historian guy with the last name Bollinger.) Searching "Jenny American Revolution" gives me "Miss Jenny, the French spy," but nothing else is known about her. (no last name, no family, nada.) Searching "Bollinger American Revolution" brings up one dude named Johannes whose major claim to fame is hiding out at Fort Hess for a month while the Indians were flogging about. Oh, and dying. Gracefully.

I'm starting to come to the conclusion that there may not BE a historical parallel to Jenny, which considering how well thought out all the other 9 characters are, is a massive disappointment. Why spend all that time setting up the Revolutionary parallel in order to toss in a throw-away 10th character Jenny Bollinger (who appears by all accounts to have been a part or a factor of Poor Richard) because you were hitting the Champagne Room a little hard that day and thought it would make a spanky name? :/

I dunno :/ My illusion is a little destroyed right now. 9 out of 10 is not 100% bitchin'.

/me pops the cork on the Bolli and drowns the sorrows of unfulfilled historical lust
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I've been lurking for a while and I thought I'd contribute my "two cents" Surprised :

After watching almost all of the videos for the first "season" of clothing (the ones I can figure out) and piecing together what I know about the American revolution with the time it looks like the creators have spent on the history of the band / these characters, I'm thinking that Jane McCrea / the "spinning Jenny" is the most logical.

Personally, I've got a hunch towards the spinning Jenny theory- maybe this Jenny character has an instrumental role towards "setting things into motion," since we don't really known her part other than knowing that she has a relationship with Arnold. She could be some kind of firestarter or instrumental "pawn" in this revolution.

Also, I think that the Jane -> Jenny is a bit of a stretch, although I could be wrong.

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Jane is wrong. It's Jenny McCrea.

Spinning Jenny - is this Jenny drawing together the fibers of the story into a single thread?
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Jenny v. Jane McCrea

aliendial wrote:
Jane is wrong. It's Jenny McCrea.


Actually, her real name was Jane McCrea, so the history goes, but following her murder/death, she became immortalized as "Jenny" by the Patriots as they made her their martyr (Despite the fact that she was actually a British Loyalist. You know, details, phbbt. We're Americans! We dont' need no stinkin' details!)
Relevant links:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nwa/jane.html
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/historiography/fiske-7.html
(See Also: The Complete Idiot's Guide to the American Revolution. Yes, I admit, I read it. Therefore me=Complete Idiot. And damn proud.)

aliendial wrote:
Spinning Jenny - is this Jenny drawing together the fibers of the story into a single thread?


Do we really have more than one fibery bit to spin? Maybe I'm reading this story too linearly.
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Well you've been paying more attention than I have - is she some kind of focal point - where the lives/stories of some of the characters meet? Or are we getting ahead of the story, maybe?
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ScarpeGrosse wrote:

However, we didn't have a last name before. Thanks to the email we got, we've been given "Bollinger" for the last name, which "IF" we're following a trend, then Bollinger is going to be a last name connected in some way to the Revolution.
* ScarpeGrosse pops the cork on the Bolli and drowns the sorrows of unfulfilled historical lust


Wait a minute, when did following the last name become a trend? Jeff, Abby, Arnold, Adam -- all the first names indicating the last name of the famous person. The first name of the characters seem to be the most imporant (indicating the historical persons last or first name, depending) rather than the last - wasn't Lyn the only one whose last name led to something?

I think either the spinning Jenny or Miss Jenny the spy could be possible, it just depends on how the Jenny story pans out.

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The last names are typically the mother's maiden name:

Adam (John Adams) : Boylston (mother: Susanna Boylston Adams )
Madison (James Madison) : Rose Conway (mother: Eleanor Rose Conway )
Jeff (Thomas Jefferson) : Randolph (mother: Jane Randolph )
Sam (Sam Adams) : Fifield (mother: Mary Fifield )
Abigail (Abigail Adams) : Quincy (mother: Elizabeth Quincy Smith )
George (George Washington) : Ball (mother: Mary Ball )
Arnold (Benedict Arnold) : Waterman-King (mother: Hannah Waterman King)
Lyn (Benjamin Franklin) : Folger (mother: Abiah Folger)

Sally (Sally Hemmings) - we don't know her last name. I'm not even sure we know exactly who Sally Hemmings's mother was Razz

If that's not a strong pattern, I don't know what is :/

So when I see "Jenny Bollinger," after that string of names that match with mommies, I start looking for Bollinger mommies. I just haven't found one.
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ScarpeGrosse wrote:

So when I see "Jenny Bollinger," after that string of names that match with mommies, I start looking for Bollinger mommies. I just haven't found one.


Maybe they don't know who Jenny's mother is, either.
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