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[LOCKED] Crack the Code Reality Game SABOTAGE
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Night565
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Here is my cleaned up version of the pertinent part of the code. I've removed a couple bits which I think were not cleverly disguised letters but merely misleading lines. If we ever find the chap who made the blueprint, I say we give him a good walloping. But that's me.

I've included two different orientations for the code. I personally will be working more on orientation B, as that is my current choice for 'most likely orientation'. Why? Because that's the orientation where the Euro symbol faces the right direction. Feel free to work at it from a different angle if you feel the need.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:23 am
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ziot
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It's all really everyones perspective, but I still don't think there is any direct meaning from the text behind the font, I think the meaning comes from the actual image. The blue print and types of font used.

I messaged him on myspace - http://www.whataboutpp.com/upload/leak.jpg.

I guess we're waiting for the 'next press release'.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:29 am
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Ehsan
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This was the best I could do with it...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I think it's trying to say:
"This is not a test for whatever you think it is"

But we're not really there... mistakes at the end? transcription errors? The original image hurts my eyes so you be the judge.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:21 am
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equi_design
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Site design

I'm hesitant to complete an application (even after all that mumbo jumbo 'official' email)... the website design seems home grown at best and there's no mention of what network this show will (or if) be broadcasted on. Not to mention the uF rule breaking... sigh.

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Max Steele
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Re: Site design

equi_design wrote:
I'm hesitant to complete an application (even after all that mumbo jumbo 'official' email)... the website design seems home grown at best and there's no mention of what network this show will (or if) be broadcasted on. Not to mention the uF rule breaking... sigh.


He did mention on the forum that the show hasn't been filmed yet, and after they film it they'll be 'shopping' for a network.

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Night565
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It seems odd that they'd offer a $10 mill prize without having a backer to start. Could be independently wealthy, or could just be part of the game. Of course, if they offer a prize, even within the context of an alternate reality game, they're still liable to provide the prize. So, let's hope they're not just ignorant of the law.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:39 pm
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MageSteff
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Ehsan wrote:
While there seems to be a game in this, I think the SEO association is very obvious... looks like a way of raising pagerank or creating linkfarms or whatever they do for SEO... or at the very least they're trying to increase traffic to a legit site by spamming different boards (which I doubt is legit because he said "short term project")

I don't think we should contribute to that and thus remove all the hyperlinks if this is allowed to go on. Change the URL to something else and just notify everyone who wants to visit the actual site of how to do that, without giving them search engine benefits.


Would a tinyurl work?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:21 am
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Ehsan
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MageSteff wrote:
Would a tinyurl work?


Yup

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:44 am
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Night565
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Straight from myspace. The blurry bird picture has been there a little while, though without a caption until now. The caption for it now reads, "why iS iT looking at me?" The caps are intentionally that way. Could be another reference to St. Louis, dunno.

New today is the pic of the knight. Also, if you haven't seen, Clue 1 has been unhidden: http://tinyurl.com/qwmhx

Already attempted answers to the clue: SirCharles/Wheatstone.php and Charles/Wheatstone.php
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:34 pm
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Night565
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Thanks to the kind folks at SEOrefugee.com, we bring you this pic. Apparently Ehsan's interpretation of the fonts on the blueprint were right. It's all about the symbols, and not the code.
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catherwood
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blueprint without text

I'm not so certain that this "clue" means that the words in the blueprint didn't matter. The long message was decoded (with errors), which makes me believe that the short repeated message will also have meaning, regardless of the various fonts used, even if that meaning is "red herring".

Anyway, I couldn't help myself, and I removed all of the text from the blueprint.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:36 am
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konamouse
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The "favorite code maker" is a chess piece, a "knight".

Sir Charles Wheatstone maybe a code creator (telegraph, playfair cipher), but he was only born in 1802, so how could he have created a code in 1809 that is now obsolete.
On the other hand, the other part of the clue mentions using the photo of Leak to solve. The only photo of Leak on the website has him holding the "Money Bomb" that has the big "S" on it.

Sir Home Popham is remembered for his scientific accomplishments, particularly the development of a signal code that was adopted by the Royal Navy in 1803.

I'm at a loss regarding Porta and Spencer.
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Night565
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Logic Puzzle

So, on a hunch, I went back and double-checked the logic puzzle. I'm pretty certain the answer is Spencer, not Wheatstone. Here's my solve:

Code:

  1 2 3 4
P T F T F
S F T F T
O T F F T
W F T F T


The trick was in lining up W1 and W4. But if you look carefully, W1 says Wheatstone took the pictures. W4 says he saw the film, in this case meaning the microfilm. It's very possible that he took the pictures but never saw the developed film until it was in the case file.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:08 pm
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well done!

So, we have an idea of the kind of puzzlemaster we are dealing with:
  • on the plus side, no trick questions -- The first blank in Who stole the microfilm? _____ is the same answer as the second blank in This individual, ____, created a code in 1809
  • on the neutral side, clear instructions -- we are told specifically how to submit our answers, with a URL formatted like /firstname/lastname
  • on the negative side, poor examples -- the instruction was originally done with UpperCase in the name, and still does not include .php at the end (see below)
  • on the neutral side, extraneous hints -- There seems to have been no need whatsoever for the sentence, Find the code and use the photo of the Leak to decipher the first clue, as we have "deciphered" the clue with the logic puzzle alone.
  • on the negative side, fact checking -- Mr. Knight Spencer may or may not have invented this code in 1809; all i can find is that he was awarded a medal in 1809 for his invention.


http://www.realsabotage.com/Knight/Spencer doesn't work
http://www.realsabotage.com/Knight/Spencer.php doesn't work
http://www.realsabotage.com/knight/spencer doesn't work
http://www.realsabotage.com/knight/spencer.php is the ONLY format which works.

/me moves on.

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Night565
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So, as to the proof above. Apparently it warrants a little more explaining. Starting with the premise that Spencer did it:

S1 is false since he'd have to be awake to steal it.
S2 is true because if Spencer stole it, Porta would be lying about Wheatstone.
S3 is false because if it weren't, P3 and O4 would be false, which would create too many false's, and because:
S4 is true, because W1 is false, because if it weren't, Wheatstone would have too many trues. (Stick with me)

P1 is true because we're operating under the assumption Spencer did it.
P2 is false because, again, we think Spencer did it.
P3 is true because we don't have a sufficiently good reason to believe it's false, and because if it weren't Porta would have too many falses, and because of S3 being assumed false there's no conflict.
P4 is false because if Spencer did it, he couldn't be on a plane.

O1 is true because we think Spencer did it.
O2 is false, again, because we think Spencer did it.
O3 is false because if Spencer did it, he couldn't have been at the movies.
O4 is true because if it weren't, Popham would have too many falses.

W1 is false because S4 is assumed true.
W2 is true because there's no reason for it not to be, and if it were false Wheatstone would have too many false's.
W3 is false because O4 was assumed true.
W4 is true because Wheatstone could very well have taken the photos without ever having seen the developed film.

Sorry if that all seems a bit of a runaround, but I'm not very good at explaining things some times. I think the reason Ehsan initially believed P3 would be false if Spencer did it is because he thought that whoever did it would have had to have used their own key, or at the least, that there was only one key. Not sure.

Either way, I'm just barely mentally tasked enough that I can't directly prove Ehsan's solve wrong. There is the possibility that Ehsan's solve is still technically correct, in which case we'd have two solves to the same logic puzzle, which would be nothing short of... puzzling.
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