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[PUZZLE] #251 - Silver - The Thirteenth Labour
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xxfenrirxx
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So I'm about to get trouted. Hoorah.

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Rand0m
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xxfenrirxx wrote:
So I'm about to get trouted. Hoorah.


Put it this way - if the solution to the card turnes out have nothing to do with the encryption techniques that the distributed client is designed to pick away at, but to instead revolve around a cutesy bovine animation and a dollop of vanilla with chopped nuts, then a howling, baying mob will immediately burn down the Mind Candy offices and force any survivors to listen to Barry Manilow records 24 hours a day until their brains turn to cream cheese.
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Seej
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Rand0m wrote:
....force any survivors to listen to Barry Manilow records 24 hours a day until their brains turn to cream cheese.

So that's how they make cream cheese. I always wondered....

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:30 pm
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Demzon
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I just started looking at all of this stuff a few days ago. I may be way off but I thought I might put in some information that my mind comes up with in regards to this card as everyone is working so hard at it.
George Boole died in 1864 december 8th. the person that came up with Boolean algebra and the idea for the AND, NOT, and OR operatiors in Boolean searches.
Here in the United States in 1864 the 13th amendment was added to the constitution. That was the amendment abolishing slavery and indentured servitude unless used as a punishment for a crime that had been prosicuded through the judicial system.
There are 5 cows imbeded in every AMD 80486DX4 chip. (viewable at http://www.molecularexpressions.com/creatures/pages/fivecows.html)
Also BASIC, and PL/I was introduced in 1964, and the first LAN was set up at Xerox Palo Alto. At Epson the first dot matrix printer is made for use with the Tokyo Olympics.
In the US military, TRANSIT came on line in 1964. Today we call it GPS.
My mind folows alot of strange tangents hopefully something in there is usefull in cracking this thing. Smile

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nomadcelt
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Longhorn

How long is the key for this in characters? 8? Any chance that what was said above is correct (re: AMD chip). Could the key not be Longhorn? Was this card released about a similar time to the announcement of Windows Longhorn (now Windows Vista)?

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oliverkeers13
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It's already been mentioned: here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.
Dinner's on me tonight, then: Trout Trout Trout Trout Trout Trout Trout Trout Trout Trout
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UKver2.0
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What? No vegetarian alternative? Bah!

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Nerd
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5 Million WUs!

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Demzon
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sorry, I was just posting what I found that I didn't notice as duplicated. Maby I blanked it out as it has been repeated so many times.

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Teebor
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I've dedicated two more machines to the mix (I will try and get more but no promises)

I don't have the card myself yet but so far I have been quite lucky with silvers (or should that be unlucky Evil or Very Mad )

Given the cows and their refence to dstributed.net has anyone considered a key like tucows? (bearing in mind I have only read about half this thread yet)

or the very obvious five cows?

Its just from the silvers I have done (and blacks) the answer is always easier than it appears, and is usually staring you in the face Sad

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QBKooky
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Yeah, people have tried a whole bunch of cow-like combinations (as well as many others), but Mind Candy has pretty much said we're doing it the correct way - since they estimated it would take x many computers y many months, that implies it must be brute-forced in this manner, because if it were just a matter of guessing the key, someone would have gotten it by now. Razz
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Purdy
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First post

this is my first post so be kind if I open myself up for a trout-slapping..
Anyways my two pence worth; I was trying all sorts of combinations (lust opus etc.) and anything I could find relating to Hercules or a 13th task, but then it was revealed to me that his (wicked) step-mother Hera was a goddess most commonly associated with cattle and is often described as cow-faced etc (I know some people who fit that description) but there is a story in which a baby Hercules bit Hera as she was breast-feeding him and the resultant mess is what gave us the milky-way (there is also a story that takes place just after being released from the 12 tasks that involves a stolen cow and a King Eurythus and Eurythus gave me a SysEx file which is quite exciting as a) I'd not got that one before and b) I still don't know what it is lol) needless to say I have tried these in the ASCII convertor and to no avail, not any help I know but I wanted to contribute something (especially as the code thing is outta my league) I hope this is new information for people wether it's useful or not... well.
It is my first day, and I fear the rest of my life... Wink

oh and hello everyone!

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mqpippin
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I think I'm going into Labour!

QBKooky wrote:
Yeah, people have tried a whole bunch of cow-like combinations (as well as many others), but Mind Candy has pretty much said we're doing it the correct way - since they estimated it would take x many computers y many months, that implies it must be brute-forced in this manner, because if it were just a matter of guessing the key, someone would have gotten it by now. Razz


I've just spent at least 10 hours wading thru the posts here. Sadly, I'm more lost than when I started. Can you or ANYONE slap me in the right direction.

I'm trying to find out any of the following:

1) What is the algorythm/mathematical function/whatever that is defined as "rccrypt"? I know that it somehow involves substituting something somewhere for a certain number of times. My most perfect answer for this question would be in a way that I could sit down with paper and pencil and ENCODE something using my own key. Not that I'd really do that, but I would like it explained that technically. (My goal is to write something of my own to work this out - mostly for FUN). A link to something like this would be fine even, but please, not back to distributed.net.... *whimper*

2) I see many mentions of some group attempting "brute force" decoding. Where can I go to help? Where can I see their progress if they are sharing it? Is there some kind of "seti - boinc" type project? If so, I'd obviously ditch the idea of question #1 except as academic research....

3) Is there somewhere a COMPILED .exe that I can run on a Windows XP machine that shows me progress (keys tried, or every 100th decrypt display it, or SOMETHING other than it just finishing eventually? If not a compiled version, is there a post that you can shunt me back to that explains how to set up something on my XP machine? I also have access to a couple of Unix servers if there's a .ksh or a perl script

4) Has the key "elephant", "bananana" or "banacowphantbulb" been tried? Wink

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FranG
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I'm probably not the best person to answer any of your questions, but I can't resist asking about elephant & bananana. Why those?

As to the code cracking, there's another thread for this card that's more oriented toward the combined assault. Look down the list and you should see it. Until the Wave 4 cards pushed everything down it was usually near the top.

Here's a link to the site for the client:
http://13thlabour.tk/

Join in. Just download the program and start it running. We're over 50% complete now.

Google rccrypt and you can read about the underlying program. There's also an online key tester and a compiled program, but I don't remember the addresses. They're somewhere in the other thread. None of these give much in the way of feedback.

They also have puzzles with card prizes on the Live Journal at the above link.

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themandotcom
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Also, RCCRYPT is a program used to encrypt/ decrypt the RC5 algorithim, which basically changes the plaintext in some way that is wayyyy too complicated to explain. So we are trying every possible key, so far to no avail. This is known as brute forcing! We know the key is 8 letters long, so we are guessing everyone.
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