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[Website] The Hollow Needle - Opened 18 June
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shinything
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I'm most creeped by the fact that they named their clown doll "Bazooka". *shudder*

I still think all the antique keys and locks are beautiful. I wish we could really buy them! I'm not sensing any immediate puzzles here just yet, though.
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konamouse
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Shelina wrote:
What does that ID mean?


"Identification"
Either to verify that a person is over age 21, or that they are who they claim to be. Dunno why she would require that - unless she is worried someone would be buying it under a falsehood.
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exrester wrote:
I feel like there must be something in the books page. The last book: will not sell without ID? I don't know, something gives me the feeling that there's something more going on on this page...


It's a medical text, probably has sketches of the naked body, hence probably would not be sold to someone not over 18.

This looks interesting though:

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Incunabula Legenda Aurea, Lives of the Saints. French, written in 1483,

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If you look up with the treaties is about I can understand why she would want some type of identification. Google it. lol

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If we can all be mature here, and not force people to google something so useless, here {not really mature content below compares to the language in bruce's blog}:


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What is a hydrocele?
A hydrocele is a fluid filled sac which lies within the scrotum. A hydrocele can develop when the passage through which the testicles descend into the scrotum fails to close. Fluid from inside the abdomen then flows through this passage into the scrotum causing the scrotum to swell. One or both sides of the scrotum can become swollen. A hydrocele can also develop if the testicle becomes inflamed or damaged, or if there is fluid blocking the sperm tube. Common in new born boys.

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I don't really see the technical discussion of medical problems relating to the scrotum as a reason to ask for I.D. I also don't imagine she plans to sell a lot of these valuable manuscripts to kids in the first place, just because if you're buying, say, a 13th-century Bible leaf, it's probably going to cost you a bit more than your average teenager is willing to spend on such a thing. I'll send an e-mail and ask for info about the treatise. (Might be a dead end, but it can't hurt to check.)

[Edit to combine the two adjoining posts by the same person - kona]

Sent this:

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Dear Phyllis and J.D.,

I noticed the Treatise on the Hydrocele on your Web site, and I'm interested in it -- it would be a perfect gift for my father, who is both a collector of old books and a professor of pathology. (And his birthday is coming up in July -- what a coincidence!) I was just wondering a couple of things: First of all, how much are you asking for the book? Second, Do you have any pictures or scans of interior spreads? My father is particularly interested in historical methods of diagramming, etc., so I'd be interested to see what the content of the book looks like. Third, I notice that you won't sell without I.D. -- what in particular does that mean? Obviously, I have I.D., but not as a medical professional or anything. So I'd appreciate it if you could let me know what kind of I.D. you're looking for for that.

You can send me an e-mail back or give me a call at (xxx) xxx-xxxx. Looking forward to hearing back from you.

Thanks!
Jonathan Becker


I'll let you guys know if anything comes of it...

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I have known stores that do not sell books with possibly graphic images{drawn or not}, even if it is an outdated medical book, to minors. It just doesn't strike me as that unusual... if you feel it is worth a digging, then by all means if for nothing else than your own sake go for it. I have definatly been through that myself where i was certain something was important and no one else was, and sometimes it turned out i was right.
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Pixiestix wrote:
I have known stores that do not sell books with possibly graphic images{drawn or not}, even if it is an outdated medical book, to minors. It just doesn't strike me as that unusual... if you feel it is worth a digging, then by all means if for nothing else than your own sake go for it. I have definatly been through that myself where i was certain something was important and no one else was, and sometimes it turned out i was right.


I feel the same way. The town is not a large metropolitan area like Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, (your home town), but there are still many places that live by out of date blue laws, at least in tradition and practice if not legally. Phyllis would be one to want to protect children, and make certain that she never gave them any material that might harm them. It might not even be a tradition that the rest of the town holds - I just think it was the way Phyllis was raised, and how she personally believes. It is one of those qualities that make her endearing to me. She is a proper Lady. It reminds me of one of my great-aunts. In CTW1 when everyone else was panicing, running around like a chiken with it's head cut off, Phyllis was a calm place in the storm. Even when she was complaining about Sarah's artwork that they had painted over in the house, I got the feeling that she never did more than wring her hands a few times. And when the Portal showed up - she took it like a trooper and kept people downstairs away from it. Plus she was strong enough that when the mask threatened to take over Iris, Phyllis didn't even bat an eyelash, she just got in there and pulled that thing off!

I could see Phyllis giving any shade that dared to disrupt the town an good stern talking too. Laughing She's a trooper and we love her. (Thank you Sally, where ever you are, for giving her that persoanlity!)
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Well, I got an autoresponder, which may have been posted elsewhere but if so I haven't seen it. In case anybody's interested:

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Thank you for your interest in the Hollow Needle!

Located in the historic Old Dobbs House in scenic Aglaura, the Hollow
Needle offers one of New Jersey's finest collections of antiquaries from
every continent. As owner and curator, I meticulously select each and
every piece for its unique character and value.

We specialize in antique books and manuscripts for the discerning
collector, but offer a touch of ancient elegance for even the most casual
antiquer.

We will contact you about your message as soon as possible.

Sincerely,
Phyllis Willingham


I'll let you guys know if anything more interesting comes of this.

Incidentally, I know that you're all probably right and this is almost definitely nothing, but I just figured it can't hurt to check into it. I don't know why it gives me a bit of a weird vibe, but it does, so I figure, hey, what have I got to lose? At worst, I bother Phyllis unnecessarily for like 30 seconds, and at best, we might possibly learn something. So, you know, I'm not expecting fireworks. Just being thorough.

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MageSteff wrote:
I just think it was the way Phyllis was raised, and how she personally believes. It is one of those qualities that make her endearing to me. She is a proper Lady. It reminds me of one of my great-aunts. In CTW1 when everyone else was panicing, running around like a chiken with it's head cut off, Phyllis was a calm place in the storm. Even when she was complaining about Sarah's artwork that they had painted over in the house, I got the feeling that she never did more than wring her hands a few times. And when the Portal showed up - she took it like a trooper and kept people downstairs away from it. Plus she was strong enough that when the mask threatened to take over Iris, Phyllis didn't even bat an eyelash, she just got in there and pulled that thing off!

I could see Phyllis giving any shade that dared to disrupt the town an good stern talking too. Laughing She's a trooper and we love her. (Thank you Sally, where ever you are, for giving her that persoanlity!)


Not trying to pick on you, Stef. This is just a good example of the kind of posts that are making this game less of a game for me (Well actually, more of a constant reminder that thie IS a game). I'm starting to feel like the waterboy. I was interested to find out about things like Sam's gender change and different names on tombstones and such, which would tend to indicate that whether you were a new player in this world or an old one, it wouldn't matter. More and more, though, it seems like it does. It's not your fault that you're invariably right when you discount a particular piece of spec or are able to predict someone's actions, but I'm left feeling like "why bother with this" when it does happen.
I'm not a big interactor so I fault myself for not being more engaged. The PMs obviously reward that as evidenced by the power outage and other things. So, how can I adjust my perspective and find some way to connect to this? To make the whole thing feel more real and less like I'm reading a piece of historical fiction?
Again, No disrespect for you or any of the CTW1 vets, but I'm really hoping for some curveballs, soon. Otherwise It'll be just a frustrating experience where I'll be told what bears further investigation, but it won't matter as that'll already be done and I'm left twiddling my thumbs.
Maybe it's just the difference in subject matter, but I didn't feel this way about Orbital Colony. I could imagine those folks up on the station, but am having trouble with these, more mundane characters.
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I didn't play CTW1... I do admit there are some things that players of the first game are more apt to be better at, spec wise, but i've really not felt left behind - i think as long as you read the guides from the first game {remember, we aren't sure this reality HAS much to do with the old one for sure yet.... but all in all it is a sequel} then i really feel any player should be fine.
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Unless, of course, sometime in the game it becomes a liability to have knowledge of the first game. I know if "I" was running a sequal to a game like this, I'd try to do something like that.
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Rogi Ocnorb wrote:


Not trying to pick on you, Stef. This is just a good example of the kind of posts that are making this game less of a game for me (Well actually, more of a constant reminder that thie IS a game). I'm starting to feel like the waterboy. I was interested to find out about things like Sam's gender change and different names on tombstones and such, which would tend to indicate that whether you were a new player in this world or an old one, it wouldn't matter. More and more, though, it seems like it does. It's not your fault that you're invariably right when you discount a particular piece of spec or are able to predict someone's actions, but I'm left feeling like "why bother with this" when it does happen.


To tell the truth Rogi, I was doing more reminicing, and speculating on the whys of a personality. I don't even know how large a part this Phyllis will take in this game, but you can say I am kindly disposed to her. She could turn out to be the Devil himself - we haven't actually gotten a reply from her yet in this game.

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I'm not a big interactor so I fault myself for not being more engaged. The PMs obviously reward that as evidenced by the power outage and other things.


We are only just getting into the puzzles but once we start having them, I will be like a poor lost child. I am not good at puzzle. Right now they are just setting the stage for us.

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So, how can I adjust my perspective and find some way to connect to this? To make the whole thing feel more real and less like I'm reading a piece of historical fiction?
Again, No disrespect for you or any of the CTW1 vets, but I'm really hoping for some curveballs, soon. Otherwise It'll be just a frustrating experience where I'll be told what bears further investigation, but it won't matter as that'll already be done and I'm left twiddling my thumbs.


My appoligies, Rogi. I am a big fan of trying to cover all bases in speculation and puzzle solving. You may find the thread that the rest of us old hands miss.

I guess I havebeen acting like one of those people at the old folks home ... "I remember when we..." At least I don't have to take my teeth out at night yet.

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Maybe it's just the difference in subject matter, but I didn't feel this way about Orbital Colony. I could imagine those folks up on the station, but am having trouble with these, more mundane characters.


It is true that each game has its own feel. I do know that I am letting my past experience with this setting fill in the colors and details that new players may find missing. There is a part of me that is unconsciously
looking to find the differences. I see the familiar symbols and I do wonder at how they will be used this time around. It's as if I am holding up two pictures that are nearly identical and trying to spot the differences.

We have townsfolk who are apparently remembering events of the first game even though they did not happen here.

For me that is the biggest mystery, and one I am trying to connect the missing dots on. Is it the Wish? Is it that Don Marzano from the old game some how took over and is inhabiting her namesake in this game? What part does the 3-o-7 group play in this? Will they be the saviors or the demons?

You are right my familiarity with the icons from the other game may trip me up a lot. I feel like an American who has gone to do business in another country but I am screwing up the body language cues.
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CK, I think you've hit it - that somewhere along the adventure things are going to be turned upside down for all of us.

I can understand the frustration of coming into CTW2 with those of us who were active in CTW1. For me, it's like coming home to a place I loved being in. It's also a bit frustrating at times because I know so much of what went on that sometimes I think twice before posting anything that I think might relate to this timeline from the last. I started a private blog so I can have a place to post all the things I want to say but feel might be too much related to what went before.

I believe that once the story starts moving along those who are new to Aglaura and its citizens will feel more "at home." So far the immersion hasn't really been there - atleast to me in comparison to what it was last time. Meaning I'm not arguing back and forth with Bruce in private mail. lol Or getting one of the stones.

My feeling is that we are all in for a ride we can share and feel a part of. We all have something to offer to this adventure.

And I hope that those of us who participated before can have our memories of people like Phyllis revived and those who are here for the first time will be able to gain some insight into these people.

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