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[META] Hanso real world vs. TV fiction
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Gus Raja wrote:
3. All ARG characters have likely watched the show, so anything in the show may be used in the ARG, although it's not likely to be used by Hanso execs looking out for the best interests of Hanso (it might however be used by Hanso execs disenfranchised by the foundations who are looking to expose it, in the event that any such characters exist). In particular, stuff from the show is likely to be used on non-Hanso stuff such as hints/clues/solves set up by Persephone, DJ Dan, Rachel Blake, Verizon employees, Monster employees, Sprite employees, Chrysler employees, and of course ABC employees (i.e., the Speaker), etc.

I agree with this. It explains Persephone's clue and also things like the cover page of the ROT site, DJ Dan's theories, etc.- where non-essential, almost trivial, things about the show are included. This makes the ARG more fun for hard-core fans of LOST (who, if they are like me, would be the ones reading my post and saying, hey, these things aren't trivial! You're talking about [that major thing from 2x17]! You guys know who you are Wink )

It is such a fine distinction, though, and earlier on in the game there was a lot of spleen being vented on ABC for including the show in the game at the expense of AUS/UK fans who have not seen the second season. So while I think all of these connections are there, I believe (and I hope!) that noticing them will only enhance your game experience, or provide a laugh, but are not required in order to play. Like, for example, that the solve to Persephone's anagram was a quote from somewhere else, that the cover page to the ROT site was ridiculous even if you didn't watch LOST (and also referenced season one primarily), etc.

Then again, I suppose in the spirit of TINAG, what I should say is, I hope that our fellow truth-seekers over at Hanso and Verizon will not put any major spoilers in their hints!

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 		I hope that by getting a clearer picture of exactly what the connections are between the show its self, and Hanso we will be able to understand the whole thing better.


The key thing that I am wondering about is where did the writers of Lost get their information?

For example, I wonder about the training videos. We have seen more of the videos up on youtube than we see in the tv show. Could it be that those videos are real training videos from DHARMA that the writers found and incorporated into the LOST story? If so, where did they get the video, where did they get any of the info on DHARMA that they have?
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vector wrote:
The key thing that I am wondering about is where did the writers of Lost get their information?



Good question. What if, per chance, we were to learn that Persephone has been on ABC's payroll for over a year. Maybe they're actually funding her efforts to uncover stuff about Hanso.

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 		Totally. Someone writing for LOST has to have been on the Hanso payroll. I still hold on to my spec that DJ Dan is the link for all this. Or maybe it's just my way of explaining why he happens to be "played" by a well-known LOST writer. (I posted that theory on the other board.) And also why he is so ridiculous and so shady.

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 		Yeah, the whole thing with the writers is weird, eh? The question of how much they know and how much they make up is pretty interesting. You would think that they made up the plane crash to give them a format for revealing the goings-on of this weird Hanso island, but maybe they KNOW that Hanso crashed a plane there and so that is just as true as the existence of DHARMA.

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Yeah, the whole thing with the writers is weird, eh? The question of how much they know and how much they make up is pretty interesting. You would think that they made up the plane crash to give them a format for revealing the goings-on of this weird Hanso island, but maybe they KNOW that Hanso crashed a plane there and so that is just as true as the existence of DHARMA.

"what's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would you still have broken it if I hadn't said anything?"



They didn't make it up, because in this ARG the plane crash itself, or at least the disappearance of Flight 108, is now documented history. There really was a flight that disappeared. However, I'm wondering about Gary Troup's role in all of this. It was said by someone associated with ABC that he was chopped up in the engine, but that's purely fiction. Nobody really knows if the plane even went down like that, so it's nothing but spec by the writers of the show.

How's this for a theory...

Gary Troup did have a ticket for the flight, but at the last second he was compelled to miss the flight. Instead, ABC employees fascinated by his just released book, the Bad Twin, shuffled him off in a limo and hired him to become a writer for a new show. At the time ABC had no idea where they were going with the show. The entire idea, plot, everything...it's all Gary Troup's. This also goes along with that season 2 episode (mod's can add the show number)...
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where it looks like everything is in Hurley's mind. You know, the one where he's nearly convinced to jump off the cliff. Maybe Troup is writing in Hurley almost as a character representing who he is. For instance, his lotto winnings practically compare to his huge new contract with ABC.


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The episode number was 2x18. The place to look this up is here, on the LostPedia

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Gus Raja wrote:
chief wrote:
Yeah, the whole thing with the writers is weird, eh? The question of how much they know and how much they make up is pretty interesting. You would think that they made up the plane crash to give them a format for revealing the goings-on of this weird Hanso island, but maybe they KNOW that Hanso crashed a plane there and so that is just as true as the existence of DHARMA.

"what's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would you still have broken it if I hadn't said anything?"


They didn't make it up, because in this ARG the plane crash itself, or at least the disappearance of Flight 108, is now documented history. There really was a flight that disappeared. However, I'm wondering about Gary Troup's role in all of this. It was said by someone associated with ABC that he was chopped up in the engine, but that's purely fiction. Nobody really knows if the plane even went down like that, so it's nothing but spec by the writers of the show.
Right, the plane crash is confirmed as real but it seems that everythign else would have to be spec, like Troup riding the engine express to his destiny. I wasn't clear, but what I meant was: did the writers make up the idea that Hanso crashed it to tie into this show Lost that reveals all this Hanso knowledge they somehow have. Clearly the Lost writers have SOME inside info about Hanso, the question is how much: do they know about the real plane crash and it is fiction that Hanso crashed it? Or do they know about the real plane crash and also know that Hanso crashed it? That is the twisty stuff - how much the writers know v. how much they spec.
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 		First we'd need to establish if Hanso really did crash it. That's all mere spec as well, unless there's something I don't know relating to this notion.

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