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[psyche]

[jojojojo]

I think no is a good time to talk about biased reporting. We have access to only ONE Perplexian newspaper. If this was Earth, and you wanted an honest opinion of what is *really* happening, would you listen to one newspaper? How much of one paper would you believe? A good researcher looks at several sources before coming to one conclusion. Given that we have found the Sentinel to be biased in the past, can we assume that they will be screaming "OMIFGOD!!! Earth stuff FOUND!"?

So, fine, the furniture and artifacts may be reproductions, but newspaper clippings/articles? We cannot assume that they have been made up. We have been told what has been found, and we must assume that there is *some* kind of way of accessing Earth stuffs. I am reluctant to say that the 3P are involved somehow, BUT we do know that the Third Power have come to Earth. Take Clapham for example. We had a moley, moley moley in our midst, so if people can be transported, why not Earth goods?

(Only in KENYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!)

[psyche]

You're right, of course, that we know things *can* be transported. *We* know that - we know all kinds of sekrit things. But the received wisdom in Perplex City is that it can't be done - they have no idea how the Cube was moved. So the Sentinel can't have meant to say that those articles were from real hard copies of newspapers, or it would have made a bigger deal about it. And you're right that the fact they don't mean to say this doesn't make it false. It's possible they were from real Earth newspapers. But we have no reason to think so, since our only source is the Sentinel, and I'm sure that's not what they were saying (in the same way that if someone told you they collected spaceships you wouldn't assume they had a warehouse full of old NASA equipment simply because they didn't specify they were models).

We know that there is a big market for Earth books in PXC, and that thay have access to lots of our printed material, which has come to them electronically via the link and then been printed in replica books or distributed via key by enterprising publishers there. I don't see any reason why newspapers shouldn't be distributed in the same way. Clippings could simply be print-outs.

However, I acknowledge that it's *possible* that they've been given these articles by some dodgy source. I just don't think there's any actual evidence for that as yet - the alternative explanation is simpler and fits the known data.

(more like Snore-way)

[achenar]

[jojojojo]

Another point I would like to make is the topic of censorship. We've seen it in our own wars, governments forbid papers from publishing material that will cause public outcry or lower moral. We have to bear in mind we never get to read the whole Sentinel, only the main stories. Why not? Why doesn't the Sentinel grant us full access? Have they been told not to allow us to see the whole paper? Do the Academy fear that we will see into too much of Perplexian life? Or is this something to be dismissed as TIAG and MC have not got the time to write articles in every section? OR is it something that the MC will assume that we will class it as TIAG when all this time, really, we are being subjected to censorship rules?

*jojojojo apologises if she is talking rubbish, but she really likes conspiracy theories...

I really do think we should take this article at face value. There are bad people in Perplex City who are getting to Earth and getting our stuffs.

EDIT:

Also, Scott pointedly linked all the articles that mention stuff about war, conflict etc. Why are the Sentinel assuming that we have hidden this information from them? Are the Perplexian's being subjected to the same censorship, and not being allowed to read certain View from Earth articles?

[psyche]

[UKver2.0]

I really don't think the items found need to be Earth authentic for there to be conspiracy. The way the people of PXC grab a hold of anything from Earth like it was treasure would make certain people very upset. They might target some unstable youths, infiltrating already established groups, and bending their will toward violence. This looks to me like something I would expect from The US's CIA. It gives a bad name to Earth and over emphasizes our "dark side". The media is controlled and they are obviously being maneuvered/allowed to go down the path of 'Earth is having a terrible influence on today's young people'. I wouldn't be surprised if some legislation on censoring and limiting Earth material in PXC isn't the next step. A few more public incidents like this and they'll be able to generate that kind of sentiment even from those who aren't "in on it". Sente, The Academy, Enemies of Sente/The Academy, 3P, Recons, conservatives - many people could have something to gain from this. No, I think it would be wrong for us to dismiss this as just news. Possibly we can work our way in by testing out where the Sentinel really stands. A very strong 'View from Earth article' aught to do the trick. Sure it may get the Editor fired if it were to run, but I think it would go a long way in having our (uncensored) voices heard in PXC.

[spugmeistress]

[jojojojo]

*jojojojo like the idea of moley moley moley being a Perplexian in disguise better.

Makes the whole Third Power thing all the more sinister and scary. V recruited people? Bah, BORING!!!

[achenar]

[Mico]

[DrKra37]

[psyche]

[CherokeeParkes]

Acording to site 600 plus is optimal this of course will vary depending on content. As for getting a response VfE, in you'd need to be quick. I'm sure there are a few who have already given their two cents. Best of luck with your article.

Unfotunately it would be impossible for there t be the likelyhood of there being a mole.

Anyone recall a game called Sabotage? Several groups of people are put together and are then asked to go one at a time to view a map which they have to relay to the rest of the team. Of course those hosting the game say that they have appointed one of their team as a mole to sabotage the game thus making the game a lot more interesting.

With accusations flying the real saboteur is missed until the games ends.

[Juxta]