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[UPDATE] stophanso.rachelblake.com - Copenhagen Post 07

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Hank Scorpio
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What I meant by trust in the game is that Rachel says she saw an island on the equator, she keeps stressing this point. If they wanted us to know where that island is right now then they wouldve given us a picture, maybe they still will. Now I know people think shes an idiot but this game is going in a very specific direction and so far with the exception of ROT there has been 0 interactivity with game plot. They will continue to give us 'clue' after 'clue' but it is all heading in the same direction in the timeframe they decide.

On a side note:

coweringomega wrote:

Not to be picky, but the post is titled "Copenhagen Post 7" not "07". Probably a slip-up on Rachel's part. Very Happy

Looks like she saw that too its fixed now.

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:43 pm

empath
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Yeah, I definitely think they screwed up.

All the videos are already filmed, so they couldn't change her saying something about the equator in it. They just covered it up with a text entry. Oh well, shit happens.

danteIL wrote:

Hank Scorpio wrote:

After their first plan of the island being figured out, I doubt they'll show us another picture that we can debunk. T think we just need to trust in the game a little more.

'trust the game'??

Rachel herself was begging us to help her with the maps. And I quote:

Rachel Blake's blog/Copenhagen Post 05 wrote:

Now, I know it looks like just a piece of coastline. But I saw a LOT more than my camera did. I'm pretty sure those maps were all of the same place - and, it was an island. Looked to me like it was near the equator. If you can, help me identify it. This could be the key to unravelling Mittelwerk's plan.

Now, I guess she's covering her assets with the claim that she saw a LOT more than the camera, but if they didn't mean for us to identify the maps (which at that point were "all of the same place"), then why ask us for help??

N.B.: We've gone from 'finding out what happened to Alvar Hanso' to 'unravelling Mittlewerk's plan.' Seems like mission creep to me...

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:48 pm

Lucent
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World Famous Mathematician going to the Vik institute, which has been cited as having a sealed off third basement level.

Perhaps he was looking for the Valenzetti Equation?

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:38 pm

Gus Raja
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Lucent wrote:

World Famous Mathematician going to the Vik institute, which has been cited as having a sealed off third basement level.

Perhaps he was looking for the Valenzetti Equation?

That's actually a possibility. Afterall, the job description to work there requires an understanding of "applied mathematics." And actually, in the on-going search for the equation I've even pondered if it were possible to break into whatever Hanso building might be housing the formula. The book is highly sought after, and if anyone were to get a hold of it I could only imagine how much some might be willing to pay. I might even contribute to a fund, if need be, where several persons get together in order to outbid others for the lone copy should one be made available. At least then we'd be able to get at the formula.

Of note, as for an island near the equator, don't forget about the circled location near the equator in the Indian Ocean from that global map hack. The link clearly circled the Chagos Archipeligo, which is just below the equator. I still don't know the significance, but it's enough to have been the focal point of that hack. Of course the LOST island itself could easily be somewhere in the Pacific near the equator.

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:39 am

Lupus Argenteus
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Hank Scorpio wrote:

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Well...I'm wondering. Is it possible that there's a greater puzzle here? That the three maps that we saw were not just locations, but rather pointers to a greater location?

What I'm referring to is that the three maps, if I recall correctly, could have been points on a straight line. I don't have the resources to do it where I'm at right now, but has anyone tried following that line (if it really exists) to where it bisects the equator, to see if there's anything there?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:38 pm

Gus Raja
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Lupus Argenteus wrote:

Three maps? I onlly recall two maps of islands in Lake Superior. But all you need is two points to form a line. Depending on the exact spots, following this line to the intersection of the equator could very likely put you at the Galapagos Islands.

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:42 pm

Lupus Argenteus
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Gus Raja wrote:

Lupus Argenteus wrote:

There's a map in Mittelwerk's hand as well, which you see very briefly as he says "quite enough" Someone matched it up with some islands off of Wisconsin:

http://tlemythos.blogspot.com/

And, for a refresher, here's the other two pictures:

http://www.watermarkcommunity2.org/files/student_island.jpg

(both of these links are in the comments section of post 5 of the blog)

So we have three points. Now that I look at them a little closer, they may not be a straight line after all. Maybe that's doe to the curve of the earth?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:15 pm

Char
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danteIL wrote:

Thinking in metagame terms, I don't think the PMs expected us to find the actual islands. They just picked a random Google Earth spot that wasn't too recognisable, then Rachel "asks" for help. Next thing you know, Joe Q. Ingame comes along posting "Hey I found it near Australia!" and we move on from there.

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:35 pm

chief
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Char wrote:

danteIL wrote:

I have feared exactly this since Rachel's underwhelming response to the islands being found....that would be so, so lame. As someone else said, that scenario probably resulted in a fired intern, haha. But this is exactly why this game is less fun right now...we are commenting on a blog but it doesn't matter; only comments from "in-game" characters drive the story. I feel like a bystander. They could and should have played this ARG a little loose, to let players actually get solves...they could always use a plant to advance the story if we got stuck. But right now we are being spoon-fed and it is not as much fun. I still like the revelations and story, but I don't like the way it is coming out right now.

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SpiralBoundBook
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chief wrote:

But this is exactly why this game is less fun right now...we are commenting on a blog but it doesn't matter; only comments from "in-game" characters drive the story. I feel like a bystander. They could and should have played this ARG a little loose, to let players actually get solves...they could always use a plant to advance the story if we got stuck. But right now we are being spoon-fed and it is not as much fun. I still like the revelations and story, but I don't like the way it is coming out right now.

You know, and this is off-topic, but I don't think we can expect this to change too much. They called it "The Lost Experience"- as in, we experience this thing, we don't play it, we don't drive it, we just find it. Is it still an ARG? Does it just make it a "bad" ARG? I dunno, but there is a lot more on these meta questions in this thread.

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:06 pm

danteIL
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SpiralBoundBook wrote:

Thanks for pointing out that thread.. There's other stuff on this site that I guess I should pay attention to! The meta-question of whether TLE is an ARG or just an 'Experience' seems pretty crucial to how one feels about it. I think the characters in this one are too thin (so far) to support a full-fledged 'alternative' reality, but that may just be my preference...

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:07 pm

chief
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danteIL wrote:

SpiralBoundBook wrote:

I tend to agree with both of you, as seen in my META thread about Hanso real world v. Lost TV fiction http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15452
and my REF thread on those connections http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15497
SBB is well aware of both, I know

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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:37 pm

SpiralBoundBook
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chief wrote:

Hehe, well aware. And glad for it! As a very dedicated Lost fan, I feel a bit sad whenever we get down on TLE. Fundamentally, I always just think- the payoff is that what we learn about the Hanso Foundation is enriching the plot and characters on the show, and that is true to me, no matter whether this is following the "rules" or not.
That being said, if Rachel Blake was on "The Island," she'd be dino food by now.* Foolish girl.

*[ahem] sorry- there are not actually dinosaurs on the island to my knowledge. It's just a phrase my friends and I use because originally everyone thought maybe the monster on the island was a dinosaur, waaaaay back in season one. And it feels nice to yell at the telly when someone is being stupid- "HEY, don't go wandering off alone, you moron! What are you doing! YOU ARE SOOOOOOOO DINO FOOD!!!"

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:09 pm

Gus Raja
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Char wrote:

danteIL wrote:

I'm sure this is not the case. There are plenty of way more obscure islands than these which anyone living close to that area might recognize. These islands were meant to be found, and I still think the Hanso pier is in Duluth.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:40 am

Gus Raja
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Lupus Argenteus wrote:

Gus Raja wrote:

Lupus Argenteus wrote:

Ok, that makes sense. I was thinking of the first two maps as though they were just one map. The curve, btw, of the three points would be too great to represent the curvature of the earth so this theory just isn't making sense. If you were to apply geometry, two points make a line, but three points make an arc, and every arc has a center point. In other words, you'd have to extend the arc until it makes a complete circle and then find its center.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:47 am

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